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Thanks for the free lesson, Random Internet Stranger. I appreciate it. Unfortunately, the cognitive dissonance you give me is just too much to bare. Your wisdom

Thanks for the free lesson, Random Internet Stranger. I appreciate it. Unfortunately, the cognitive dissonance you give me is just too much to bare. Your wisdom is clearly beyond reproach, and so therefore Rust cannot be a systems language since it has panics. Yet, I and many others use Rust for systems programming. My brain might explode from the contradiction!

AshamedCaptain 4y ago
> therefore Rust cannot be a systems language since it has panics Or, the obvious alternative that I was trying to point out: your analysis is wrong, and therefore, assuming the language is not useless, there must be a proper alternative to "panics everywhere" * that you are not accounting for ! https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/4/14/1099 https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/4/14/1099 * This is just to explicitly write the phrase again before it is (again) twisted as calling for a strict prohibition of all non-terminating conditions or some other childish nonsense. Even unwinding panics (which are exceptions in all but name) can be an alternative, and Rust does support them.
- burntsushi 4y ago
  Cool, good thing I didn't say to panic everywhere. That lkml post has zero relevance here. He's asking for fallible allocations. Which is totally reasonable. Serious question: did you read the entire blog? If so, can you specifically point out passages you disagree with and why? EDIT: And seriously, I started out this conversation with a serious comment asking you to elaborate on what you meant by asking something very concrete: how would you change the code example in my blog to conform to your view? You decided to flippantly respond with a non-answer in the first place. Why not go back to the original question I asked and give a real answer? If you don't know Rust, then use pseudo code. We're talking about a dozen lines here. It shouldn't take long.
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AshamedCaptain 4y ago

> therefore Rust cannot be a systems language since it has panics Or, the obvious alternative that I was trying to point out: your analysis is wrong, and therefore, assuming the language is not useless, there must be a proper alternative to "panics everywhere" * that you are not accounting for ! https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/4/14/1099 https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/4/14/1099 * This is just to explicitly write the phrase again before it is (again) twisted as calling for a strict prohibition of all non-terminating conditions or some other childish nonsense. Even unwinding panics (which are exceptions in all but name) can be an alternative, and Rust does support them.

burntsushi 4y ago
Cool, good thing I didn't say to panic everywhere. That lkml post has zero relevance here. He's asking for fallible allocations. Which is totally reasonable. Serious question: did you read the entire blog? If so, can you specifically point out passages you disagree with and why? EDIT: And seriously, I started out this conversation with a serious comment asking you to elaborate on what you meant by asking something very concrete: how would you change the code example in my blog to conform to your view? You decided to flippantly respond with a non-answer in the first place. Why not go back to the original question I asked and give a real answer? If you don't know Rust, then use pseudo code. We're talking about a dozen lines here. It shouldn't take long.
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