3 ms·
Actually I did get your point (although you have made it a bit clearer re: you view on big growth, which I didn't get before), I just don't agree with you re: t
by jonny_noog 18y ago
Actually I did get your point (although you have made it a bit clearer re: you view on big growth, which I didn't get before), I just don't agree with you re: these companies in particular. I have to say I've gotten some good information from 37Signals' ideas. I don't follow their advice like an unquestioning lemming, I just take what works for me and leave it at that.
I can see how 37Signals' marketing might rub some people the wrong way, there's a fine line between productive self promotion and "boasting", a line that I think many people who are good at the former may cross from time to time (hasn't everyone felt like smashing DHH square in that pretty boy face of his at one time or another? :P). But however you feel about their approach, you can't deny that they have created a pretty good lifestyle supporting business for themselves and this should be commended IMO.
I use Backpack almost every day and it serves my particular needs very well. So I also don't agree with you that their products are not that great. I think Backpack is awesome, it does what I need it to do and doesn't get in my way. Their products are simple and straight forward for sure, but that's what I like.
I just think it just sounds like you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater a bit here. But each to their own I guess.
- nostrademons 18y agoHis point was that there're many other companies that started out as simple shareware product companies and got much more successful than 37signals. He listed Symantec, ZoneAlarm, and Winzip, to which I'd add Winamp, Microsoft, and Aladdin. These were not huge bet-the-farm VC successes like Google or Netscape. They grew slowly & organically by building (or buying, in Microsoft's case) good products for large markets. And there results have been much more impressive than FogCreek or 37signals.
- jonny_noog 18y agoAll I'm saying is don't assume that all people/businesses have the same goals, and don't assume that everyone has the same definition of success.