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Sure, blame the user, that is the mature response whenever someone is pointing out that modern ID security is a topple tower. Whatever technical solutions can

Sure, blame the user, that is the mature response whenever someone is pointing out that modern ID security is a topple tower. Whatever technical solutions can be made don't really matter unless normal people can and do use them correctly. In any case, simply setting up another non-phone computer to do the job of the smartphone doesn't change the fundamental issue, it can still break, or get stolen, or some account can get closed for spurious reasons.

Dr_ReD 4y ago
Especially when the user is a senior or a minor, blaming the user is not really the solution.
megraf 4y ago
>"Sure, blame the user, that is the mature response..." We're all here to make our own decisions. We're all here to seek enlightenment. I've made it very clear that the decisions that I have made have placed me where I don't have the same issues as OP. I'm enlightening OP, and everyone who reads these comments, I'm not "blaming" anyone.
- agileAlligator 4y ago
  When you acknowledge that there is a problem in the system and have solved it by way of a third party application, why do you still place the blame on the user for not solving the problem the same way you did instead of the system for having holes in it
  - 888666 4y ago
    How does providing information have anything to do with placing blame?
    - agileAlligator 4y ago
      > in my mind you have created a single point of failure for _yourself_ You are offloading decisions to the consumer, decisions that the consumer shouldn't have to take. They should be solved by systems design already.
- greenie_beans 4y ago
  you can't expect most consumers to make these same decisions — the vast majority of people are nowhere near as savvy as the typical hacker news commenter.
- hundchenkatze 4y ago
  "in my mind you have created a single point of failure for _yourself_." You are blaming them in your first sentence. You're both blaming and informing, your message would come off much more friendly without the first sentence.

Dr_ReD 4y ago

Especially when the user is a senior or a minor, blaming the user is not really the solution.

megraf 4y ago

>"Sure, blame the user, that is the mature response..." We're all here to make our own decisions. We're all here to seek enlightenment. I've made it very clear that the decisions that I have made have placed me where I don't have the same issues as OP. I'm enlightening OP, and everyone who reads these comments, I'm not "blaming" anyone.

agileAlligator 4y ago
When you acknowledge that there is a problem in the system and have solved it by way of a third party application, why do you still place the blame on the user for not solving the problem the same way you did instead of the system for having holes in it
- 888666 4y ago
  How does providing information have anything to do with placing blame?
  - agileAlligator 4y ago
    > in my mind you have created a single point of failure for _yourself_ You are offloading decisions to the consumer, decisions that the consumer shouldn't have to take. They should be solved by systems design already.
greenie_beans 4y ago
you can't expect most consumers to make these same decisions — the vast majority of people are nowhere near as savvy as the typical hacker news commenter.
hundchenkatze 4y ago
"in my mind you have created a single point of failure for _yourself_." You are blaming them in your first sentence. You're both blaming and informing, your message would come off much more friendly without the first sentence.