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Silent speech interfaces, as in "The Voice of God weapon?" https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2021/07/06/ufos-plasma-lasers-and-the-pentagons-voice-of-

Silent speech interfaces, as in "The Voice of God weapon?" https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2021/07/06/ufos-plasma-lasers-and-the-pentagons-voice-of-god-weapon/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2021/07/06/ufos-p...

LeonTheremin 4y ago
More like: Towards Contactless Silent Speech Recognition Based on Detection of Active and Visible Articulators Using IR-UWB Radar Scientific paper about using infrared imaging (the rays can reach under the skin) to detect silent speech/inner speech. Replicating this and using it to show people their inner speech can be stolen would bring awareness to possible surveillance. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27801867/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27801867/
- picture 4y ago
  How would this be used for surveillance? You do realize that this isn't reading people's minds/internal dialog right? It requires making specific physical motions, as if you are actually speaking. If they are already talking, then why bother with this when you could use directional microphones or even acoustic phased array? Furthermore, as someone who has worked with radar/remote imaging, it is very difficult to spy on people with a technique like this without some device right in their face, especially if the subject is moving around. And it's likely that lots of calibration and characterization are required to produce good results that will vary drastically from person to person depending on their physiology. As to the possibility of some state "top secret" technology that can do radar imaging with range and fidelity that are miles and miles ahead of research or less-classified military technology: why would they use such amazing tech on something like this? There are also established equations that define what is physically possible. Many radar systems today are basically very close to the optimal performance given constraints of real world semiconductor materials, as in, they fly close to the Shannon channel capacity limit. It's just not possible to make magical radar devices. Do you have more details about this?
  - LeonTheremin 4y ago
    Here is another Eric Schmidt quote on radars: Eric Schmidt: However, our report says that it's really important for us to find a way to maintain two generations of semiconductor leadership ahead of China. Now, the history here is important. In the 1980s, we created a group called SEMATECH. We had a bunch of semiconductor manufacturing in America. Eventually that all moved to East Asia, primarily Singapore, and then South Korea and now Taiwan through TSMC. The most important chips are made in Samsung and TSMC, South Korea, and Taiwan. China has had over 30 years to plan to try to catch up. It's really difficult. Eric Schmidt: We don't want them to catch up. We want to stay ahead. We call for all sorts of techniques to try to make sure that we rebuild a domestic semiconductor and semiconductor manufacturing facility within the United States. This is important, by the way, for our commercial industry as well as for national security for obvious reasons. By the way, chips, I'm not just referring to CPU chips, there's a whole new generation, I'll give you an example, of sensor chips that sense things. It's really important that those be built in America. https://www.hoover.org/research/pacific-century-eric-schmidt-talks-about-great-sino-us-tech-war-and-how-win-it https://www.hoover.org/research/pacific-century-eric-schmidt... Sensitive radar sensors plus machine learning may or may not be enough to extract people's inner speech - and would surely be a risk to "national security". If someone like Schmidt is so afraid of this being available for other countries, it is safer to assume it is feasible and he knows it - given he has also been saying people will be able to clone themselves as virtual assistants that will outlive them. Albeit, feasible or not, researching and demonstrating it is whole more difficult when a billionaire is "calling on all sorts of techniques" to assure their monopoly.
    - pyinstallwoes 4y ago
      I’m imagining that every single human has a detectable thinking signature at quite the distance and then that is simulated in a virtual world with machine learning predicting every single person on earth in real time, with forward propagation of scenarios.
      - picture 4y ago
        Where did you get this idea of a "thinking signature" from? What you're saying is just simply not possible. Assuming people are completely deterministic at the nanoscale, you cannot propagate forward even half a second without accounting for the stimulus from the entire world. You also cannot simulate people's minds without knowledge of basically what their every molecule are doing. Machine learning won't help you here very much. EDIT: Looking at your profile after responding to another comment by you, it looks like you believe there exist some sort of vibration that seem to be different from the physics concept? What is the vibration that you understand?

LeonTheremin 4y ago

More like: Towards Contactless Silent Speech Recognition Based on Detection of Active and Visible Articulators Using IR-UWB Radar Scientific paper about using infrared imaging (the rays can reach under the skin) to detect silent speech/inner speech. Replicating this and using it to show people their inner speech can be stolen would bring awareness to possible surveillance. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27801867/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27801867/

picture 4y ago
How would this be used for surveillance? You do realize that this isn't reading people's minds/internal dialog right? It requires making specific physical motions, as if you are actually speaking. If they are already talking, then why bother with this when you could use directional microphones or even acoustic phased array? Furthermore, as someone who has worked with radar/remote imaging, it is very difficult to spy on people with a technique like this without some device right in their face, especially if the subject is moving around. And it's likely that lots of calibration and characterization are required to produce good results that will vary drastically from person to person depending on their physiology. As to the possibility of some state "top secret" technology that can do radar imaging with range and fidelity that are miles and miles ahead of research or less-classified military technology: why would they use such amazing tech on something like this? There are also established equations that define what is physically possible. Many radar systems today are basically very close to the optimal performance given constraints of real world semiconductor materials, as in, they fly close to the Shannon channel capacity limit. It's just not possible to make magical radar devices. Do you have more details about this?
- LeonTheremin 4y ago
  Here is another Eric Schmidt quote on radars: Eric Schmidt: However, our report says that it's really important for us to find a way to maintain two generations of semiconductor leadership ahead of China. Now, the history here is important. In the 1980s, we created a group called SEMATECH. We had a bunch of semiconductor manufacturing in America. Eventually that all moved to East Asia, primarily Singapore, and then South Korea and now Taiwan through TSMC. The most important chips are made in Samsung and TSMC, South Korea, and Taiwan. China has had over 30 years to plan to try to catch up. It's really difficult. Eric Schmidt: We don't want them to catch up. We want to stay ahead. We call for all sorts of techniques to try to make sure that we rebuild a domestic semiconductor and semiconductor manufacturing facility within the United States. This is important, by the way, for our commercial industry as well as for national security for obvious reasons. By the way, chips, I'm not just referring to CPU chips, there's a whole new generation, I'll give you an example, of sensor chips that sense things. It's really important that those be built in America. https://www.hoover.org/research/pacific-century-eric-schmidt-talks-about-great-sino-us-tech-war-and-how-win-it https://www.hoover.org/research/pacific-century-eric-schmidt... Sensitive radar sensors plus machine learning may or may not be enough to extract people's inner speech - and would surely be a risk to "national security". If someone like Schmidt is so afraid of this being available for other countries, it is safer to assume it is feasible and he knows it - given he has also been saying people will be able to clone themselves as virtual assistants that will outlive them. Albeit, feasible or not, researching and demonstrating it is whole more difficult when a billionaire is "calling on all sorts of techniques" to assure their monopoly.
  - pyinstallwoes 4y ago
    I’m imagining that every single human has a detectable thinking signature at quite the distance and then that is simulated in a virtual world with machine learning predicting every single person on earth in real time, with forward propagation of scenarios.
    - picture 4y ago
      Where did you get this idea of a "thinking signature" from? What you're saying is just simply not possible. Assuming people are completely deterministic at the nanoscale, you cannot propagate forward even half a second without accounting for the stimulus from the entire world. You also cannot simulate people's minds without knowledge of basically what their every molecule are doing. Machine learning won't help you here very much. EDIT: Looking at your profile after responding to another comment by you, it looks like you believe there exist some sort of vibration that seem to be different from the physics concept? What is the vibration that you understand?