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Agricultural revolution. I believe things like food, health and safety will become things not taken for granted anymore. Prices of all of these things will go u
by esel2k 4y ago
Agricultural revolution. I believe things like food, health and safety will become things not taken for granted anymore.
Prices of all of these things will go up and take a major part of the household budgets.
I believe one of the first is food, as every nation (rich or poor or sick) will need it and changes in climatic conditions have an impact already today.
Next is health industry than defense (this one is scary) industry. In short: If you can’t guarantee food and health you will need some serious protection/go steal/trade it somewhere else.
- kulikalov 4y agoWhat do you think about food replacements like US Soylent or EU JimmyJoy? It looks to me like a big deal, but I don’t see much enthusiasm from other people and these products have been around for a while.
- 7373737373 4y agoJust test these for a week or two. I found the taste and texture intolerable after two days
- kulikalov 4y agoBeen on it since 2018. Also watching my health closely with tons of lab tests. I’ve never been in a better shape. I’m 29. As for the taste - not sure about Soylent, but JimmyJoy is very tasty.
- bambax 4y agoReally? I tried JimmyJoy and had to throw it all in the trash after the first three. I found it absolutely horrible. I would love a pill that would give me all the amino acids I need; but I couldn't swallow this.
- kulikalov 4y agoThey are continuously improving the taste, particularly after 2020
- Daneel_ 4y agoI think it's a matter of experimentation. I've been having Aussielent (Australian version of Soylent) for about 5 years for breakfast and still really enjoy it. I use the vanilla flavour, make it with hot water, and put a squirt of honey in it - it's like liquid porridge.
- iostream25 4y agoIt would seem that animals evolved to eat plants and other animals are probably not going to switch to dead packaged food from a singular company en-masse. There are also cultural factors. Meals are one of the few social excuses for hanging out and wasting work time together.
- kulikalov 4y agoAgree with the cultural value of dinners. I do that too, just eating the dead packaged food 2 out of 3 meals. I don’t need to go grocery shopping every day, don’t need to count nutrients and so on.
- tarte-au-poire 4y agoExactly. Being from a place where food is important: they are already starting to go back to the country side. Your regular accountant / dev / office employee is proud to grown eggs, potatoes, tomatoes, milk for fun. Some culture care way more about food than the US can imagine.
- esel2k 4y agoI personally did not look at them but also think it is a minority that will switch: first the price and I second I am not sure if labgrown is that appealing to most people. Agriculture revolution doesn’t only mean labgrown stuff. Crop rotations, resistant plants, derisking a good harvest etcetc. And the approaches are endless: Predictions, tools, robots, satellite imagery etcetc.
- wyager 4y agoWe don't know enough about human biology to make a healthy food replacement in a factory. We do know enough about human biology to know that we currently can't. Everyone who eats these "food replacements" long enough and frequently enough looks weak and sickly; it's not a coincidence.
- Strom 4y agoI love the concept and really tried to get on the JimmyJoy train. However it causes severe nausea for me. I don't have any known allergies or intolerances and no other food ever has caused similar issues. So, I think they have some ways to go.
- kbowerman 4y agoYou are right on point. Water as well as food of course. Growing our own food, collecting rainwater and choosing a healthier lifestyle is what we can do for ourselves.
- xk3 4y agorainwater is dirty, even in unpolluted areas https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.2c02765 https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.2c02765
- sweetheart 4y agoWe should eat what requires the fewest resources (water, land), and is completely nutritious for all stages of life: plants, and plants only. It’s mind boggling how tight the Venn diagram is between People Who Are Fearful of Climate Crisis and People Who Refuse to Stop Eating Animals.
- Heffaklump 4y agoThis is true in a lot of places and I agree meat consumption should go down but this is not true everywhere. Animals can convert calories we cannot eat to calories we can eat. Take dry grasslands for example where you could either herd goats and sheep on what nature provides or grow crops which uses a lot more water and fertilizer than the environment there produces.
- sweetheart 4y agoThis supplies a vast, vast minority of the calories in developed countries. CAFOs, or factory farms, tend to supply animal products to developed countries, and those animals aren’t being sustained on the grasslands. So your point doesn’t really justify the ubiquity of animal consumption.
- akiselev 4y agoThe GP's point applies even more to factory farms than grazing animals because animal feed can be transported across the globe. It's the agricultural version of specialization. The vast majority of feed used in factory farms is inedible to humans. The primary ingredient is often the waste product from bioethanol production and distillation [1]. The edible varieties of corn, barley, oats, and alfalfa used in feed aren't that popular with people [2], are mostly produced on land that would otherwise be unproductive, and are mostly used for newborns or in the final stage before slaughter to make the meat fattier and more palatable. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distillers_grains https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distillers_grains [2] For example, even though barley is a core ingredient to much of the alcohol industry, animal feed still accounts for two thirds of barley consumption. Most of the rest of the barley ends up in animal feed in the form of distillers grains.
- april_22 4y agoYes but regarding food the opposite could also happen. Lab grown meet, better alternatives from plants (e.g. https://simulate.com/ https://simulate.com/) are coming and could lower the price drastically. Also improving plant seeds can make them more resistant to heat/water scarcity
- bmitc 4y agoWhat's the revolution or solution?
- esel2k 4y agoI did a couple of years in agtech and must say I was impressed on the readiness of technology (adoption was a different story). So to me think of crop planning, soil health monitoring, genetically modified crops for specific regions/dryer climates as well as logistics (even water logistics) is something I see getting more important. The revolution we say in two ways: A) customers can track strawberry production from the planting date all the way to the store(check some youtube from china). So your journey and interest in the food will not only start at the stoee but much earlier evtl also creating direction connections and contracts with farms - also resulting in willingness to pay more. B) I can imagine food prices to explode - I mean who can prevent it from happening? If borders close and climate is not your friend anymore: Vertical farms, GMO crops and robotics will become a reality - because the pressure to innovate/ change will be there. Thats just my assumption after working in agtech for 2 years and living through pandemic and some political instability suddenly impacting critical supply while having a mature technology just needing to be adopted in a underserved area…