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> Someone could invent a time machine and destroy the Earth before humanity had a chance to exist, etc. I struggle with assigning infinite weight and unlikely
by dotsam 4y ago
> Someone could invent a time machine and destroy the Earth before humanity had a chance to exist, etc.
I struggle with assigning infinite weight and unlikely possibilities. But we can stay in the every day world and ask what credence do we place on the time machine possibility, and why? All information I have read suggests that it is essentially impossible, and so effectively I don't worry about this contingency at all. And then, is there anything we could do to prevent the time machine scenario? I can't think of anything at all.
On the other hand, to focus on one particular risk, there are compelling arguments made by experts in the field of artificial intelligence (e.g. Stuart Russell) that say that we face real risks based on the current trajectory of the technology. Is there anything we can do to reduce the risks? That seems like an important question.
It is important to be sceptical, and whilst I don't place 100% credence on the likelihood of a truly catastrophic AI outcome, I do think it is worth taking this possibility very seriously. There is a strong chain of reasoning behind the claims, and they are worth engaging with, especially given the fact that we are in a position to influence the outcome.
> if you're going to be so abstract about it... what's wrong with a future with flourishing AI and without humanity?
We can park the abstract side for a moment and think concretely about such a future. I want humanity to flourish, particularly during my lifetime. Credible people are currently ringing alarm bells about the potential destructive power of a technology we are actively developing, and so I think on balance it is better (at a minimum) to listen and be vigilant than to dismiss it. Better yet, I think we should engage with the arguments and see if there is anything we can do to reduce the risk of a potential bad outcome.
- Planktonne 4y ago> On the other hand, to focus on one particular risk, there are compelling arguments made by experts in the field of artificial intelligence (e.g. Stuart Russell) that say that we face real risks based on the current trajectory of the technology. To the extent that these concerns are not overblown, one way to avoid the dangers of advancing ML would be to stop all the effective altruists [1] in the field haring along at building it irresponsibly. The people preaching about the potential future dangers of AGI are the same ones pouring money into ML; if they actually meant what they said, they'd pour that money into their opponents. The current practical dangers of ML are concerned with enforcing social inequalities and concentrating power in the hands of unethical actors. The fact that many of the unethical actors claim utopian reasons for their reckless disregard of consequences is not a reason to believe them. [1] https://twitter.com/emilymbender/status/1556691543850831872 https://twitter.com/emilymbender/status/1556691543850831872