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Yeah I think hybrid is kind of inefficient. Unless it's a significant portion in person, you lose most of the benefits of being in person (e.g. it needs to be h

Yeah I think hybrid is kind of inefficient. Unless it's a significant portion in person, you lose most of the benefits of being in person (e.g. it needs to be highly connected for it to feel connected). I guess the "efficiency" gains of remote (more focus time for individuals? less distractions?) are more continuous/less thresholded OTOH because they're more related to individuals than the collective. But basically the top reason (if true) means you kind of need to be all in on the in-person or you're kind of all out efficiency-wise. Very small companies I guess can go either way and be OK (though, people need to be extra passionate about their project and coworkers to be motivated without that in-person connectedness). Big companies I think just don't work at all in the remote world. Everyone loses meaning. No one wants to do those big audacious or really challenging/messy things with no meaning (I mean, people will still do a lot of small things to get their paycheck). This may sound bad but...I am absolutely not going to do a giant, messy, complex refactor for a bunch of zoom heads who I can only talk to through some awkward hand-raising-button-disconnected-digital-cubicle social dynamics. It's just inhuman the world we were encouraged to be a part of. And we talk as if it's "normal"... Anyways, yeah efficiency! Yes, it's just inefficient for big companies. And eventually we'll realize this. I hope.

wszfahwbwbaha 4y ago
> Everyone loses meaning. No one wants to do those big audacious or really challenging/messy things with no meaning citation needed.
- iroh2727 4y ago
  [1] Social animals want to be social. Yeah I shouldn't speak for everyone... but I think for one, having a sense of mission contributes to meaning. And for two, having a sense of tribe (e.g. deep collaborators, partners in crime, healthy rivals) contributes to meaning. Both of which are much easier to have in person. There's another important aspect too which is this sense of lifelong friendship that you may be building. People you know in person, you may feel that they're a "real friend" that you can meet up with in person in the future as well, regardless of what happens with your job. That's important too. I mean a "real friend" you can call or zoom with and it's still good. But it's hard to build a "real friendship" starting from zoom, don't you think? Not impossible, but much harder/rarer (actually phone calls or writing emails is perhaps easier than zoom).

wszfahwbwbaha 4y ago

> Everyone loses meaning. No one wants to do those big audacious or really challenging/messy things with no meaning citation needed.

iroh2727 4y ago
[1] Social animals want to be social. Yeah I shouldn't speak for everyone... but I think for one, having a sense of mission contributes to meaning. And for two, having a sense of tribe (e.g. deep collaborators, partners in crime, healthy rivals) contributes to meaning. Both of which are much easier to have in person. There's another important aspect too which is this sense of lifelong friendship that you may be building. People you know in person, you may feel that they're a "real friend" that you can meet up with in person in the future as well, regardless of what happens with your job. That's important too. I mean a "real friend" you can call or zoom with and it's still good. But it's hard to build a "real friendship" starting from zoom, don't you think? Not impossible, but much harder/rarer (actually phone calls or writing emails is perhaps easier than zoom).