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I travel a lot. That’s going to be increasing by the end of the year as my wife and I live the digital nomad life flying across the US. The freedom of not havi

I travel a lot. That’s going to be increasing by the end of the year as my wife and I live the digital nomad life flying across the US. The freedom of not having to worry about your battery life for a day of real world use is amazing. I’ve only had that over the years with an iPad before ARM Macs. Not to mention your laptop not getting hot enough to boil eggs or sounding like a 747 when you open too ,any Chrome tabs.

smoldesu 4y ago
The freedom of running Docker on a laptop without heating it to 60c is too tempting, unfortunately. My Macbook will get 2-3 hours of battery life over my Thinkpad, but my Thinkpad also doesn't burn my palms with regular use. It's a game of tradeoffs, but I rarely find myself reaching for the Macbook if I've got a desktop close by. Maybe that's a skewed perspective though. I have yet to try the Pro/Max chips seriously (or the mobile 12th gen chips, incidentally), but I don't really find myself pining for them either. If my laptop is too limiting, I hop on Tailscale and dev on my desktop.
- scarface74 4y ago
  What type of battery life are you getting on an Mx MacBook?
  - intellirogue 4y ago
    I'm getting about 10 hours on my M1 16" MBP running a JetBrains IDE and 8 Docker containers.
    - sudosysgen 4y ago
      FWIW I get about the same battery life on Linux with an AMD laptop. It's not as power efficient under load but not having to run a VM for docker helps a lot.
- Gene_Parmesan 4y ago
  Man, the heating on my MacBook is insane. I have a Thinkpad with on board Nvidia card, beefy CPU, etc, and it can play gfx intense games at 4k and still sit in my lap comfortably. Meanwhile my MacBook from work gets risking-burns-hot from just screensharing on a Zoom call.
  - lostlogin 4y ago
    Is this an arm MacBook? It sounds a lot like an Intel one.
    - smoldesu 4y ago
      Unfortunately, all Macbooks will get pretty hot running Docker, Apple's fan curves will always let your machine heat up before being audible.
      - sharms 4y ago
        I am not sure how accurate this is - I have run my Macbook M1 in clamshell mode for the past year and have almost never heard the fans, and never even felt heat coming off of it, despite having Docker / JetBrains full IDEs open
        smoldesu 4y ago
        Running a local dev environment tends to hit ~75c for me on Apple Silicon, I think across 4 or 5 containers. I've also this same environment on my Thinkpad T460s (with a paltry i7 6600u), which settles out around 45-50c.
katbyte 4y ago
When depending on solar it’s pretty important to be low power, m1 drawing 10-20 watts vs something else drawing 60-80 can make a big difference on batteries
- cycomanic 4y ago
  The reality distortion field of apple fans is really getting out of hand. Portable laptops (i.e. not the desktop substitude game machines) have not been using 60W for years. In fact my X1 from 2016 typically shows between 6 and 15W in powertop depending on load and has been lasting >8h on linux (it's less now as the battery has aged a bit).
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smoldesu 4y ago

The freedom of running Docker on a laptop without heating it to 60c is too tempting, unfortunately. My Macbook will get 2-3 hours of battery life over my Thinkpad, but my Thinkpad also doesn't burn my palms with regular use. It's a game of tradeoffs, but I rarely find myself reaching for the Macbook if I've got a desktop close by. Maybe that's a skewed perspective though. I have yet to try the Pro/Max chips seriously (or the mobile 12th gen chips, incidentally), but I don't really find myself pining for them either. If my laptop is too limiting, I hop on Tailscale and dev on my desktop.

scarface74 4y ago
What type of battery life are you getting on an Mx MacBook?
- intellirogue 4y ago
  I'm getting about 10 hours on my M1 16" MBP running a JetBrains IDE and 8 Docker containers.
  - sudosysgen 4y ago
    FWIW I get about the same battery life on Linux with an AMD laptop. It's not as power efficient under load but not having to run a VM for docker helps a lot.
Gene_Parmesan 4y ago
Man, the heating on my MacBook is insane. I have a Thinkpad with on board Nvidia card, beefy CPU, etc, and it can play gfx intense games at 4k and still sit in my lap comfortably. Meanwhile my MacBook from work gets risking-burns-hot from just screensharing on a Zoom call.
- lostlogin 4y ago
  Is this an arm MacBook? It sounds a lot like an Intel one.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    Unfortunately, all Macbooks will get pretty hot running Docker, Apple's fan curves will always let your machine heat up before being audible.
    - sharms 4y ago
      I am not sure how accurate this is - I have run my Macbook M1 in clamshell mode for the past year and have almost never heard the fans, and never even felt heat coming off of it, despite having Docker / JetBrains full IDEs open
      - smoldesu 4y ago
        Running a local dev environment tends to hit ~75c for me on Apple Silicon, I think across 4 or 5 containers. I've also this same environment on my Thinkpad T460s (with a paltry i7 6600u), which settles out around 45-50c.

katbyte 4y ago

When depending on solar it’s pretty important to be low power, m1 drawing 10-20 watts vs something else drawing 60-80 can make a big difference on batteries

cycomanic 4y ago
The reality distortion field of apple fans is really getting out of hand. Portable laptops (i.e. not the desktop substitude game machines) have not been using 60W for years. In fact my X1 from 2016 typically shows between 6 and 15W in powertop depending on load and has been lasting >8h on linux (it's less now as the battery has aged a bit).
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