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Performance wise, quite favorable. Battery and power consumption, not so much.

by kcb 4y ago

senttoschool 4y ago
Performance wise, the M2 is still faster.
- cbg0 4y ago
  It isn't https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/intel-core-i7-12700h-vs-apple-m2 https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/intel-core-i7-12700h-v...
  - senttoschool 4y ago
    M2 is faster. Faster ST, GPU, video editing, AI and at significantly lower power. It loses on MT but that's because we don't have the M2 Pro/Max yet. M2 is just the entry-level SoC being compared to Intel's very best. Also, try running the benchmarks unplugged. Intel's performance will instantly drop by 25 - 50%. M2 will stay exactly the same.
    - cbg0 4y ago
      I don't disagree with you that M2 is more efficient, but let's not move goal posts after saying "Performance wise, the M2 is still faster.".
      - senttoschool 4y ago
        I didn't move the goal post. M2 is faster in ST, GPU, AI, and video editing. It's slower on MT. To me, the M2 is overall faster. Especially when unplugged which will cause Alder Lake to significantly drop in performance. What is your definition of faster?
        GeekyBear 4y ago
        > Especially when unplugged which will cause Alder Lake to significantly drop in performance. At least in a laptop, it's not just when you unplug the laptop that performance drops. You've also got to have enough volume in the laptop to shoehorn in a major cooling system if you're going to keep the P series processors from throttling. For instance, Lenovo's thin and light ThinkPad X1 Yoga has two fans but still throttles: >Unfortunately, the laptop got uncomfortably hot in its Best performance mode during testing, even with light workloads. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/07/review-lenovos-thinkpad-x1-yoga-gen-7-looks-good-but-feels-warm/5/#h2 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/07/review-lenovos-think... Or the Dell XPS 13 Plus: >the XPS 13 Plus’ fan was really struggling here because, boy oh boy, did this thing get hot. After a few hours of regular use (which, in my case, is a dozen or so Chrome tabs with Slack running over top), this laptop was boiling. I was getting uncomfortable keeping my hands on the palm rests and typing on the keyboard. Putting it on my lap was off the table. https://www.theverge.com/23284276/dell-xps-13-plus-intel-2022-review https://www.theverge.com/23284276/dell-xps-13-plus-intel-202... Intel's P series chips in a device without a massive heat sink and fans can't hit those high clocks that their performance benchmarks rely on.

Performance wise, quite favorable. Battery and power consumption, not so much.

by kcb 4y ago

Performance wise, quite favorable. Battery and power consumption, not so much.

senttoschool 4y ago

Performance wise, the M2 is still faster.

cbg0 4y ago
It isn't https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/intel-core-i7-12700h-vs-apple-m2 https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/intel-core-i7-12700h-v...
- senttoschool 4y ago
  M2 is faster. Faster ST, GPU, video editing, AI and at significantly lower power. It loses on MT but that's because we don't have the M2 Pro/Max yet. M2 is just the entry-level SoC being compared to Intel's very best. Also, try running the benchmarks unplugged. Intel's performance will instantly drop by 25 - 50%. M2 will stay exactly the same.
  - cbg0 4y ago
    I don't disagree with you that M2 is more efficient, but let's not move goal posts after saying "Performance wise, the M2 is still faster.".
    - senttoschool 4y ago
      I didn't move the goal post. M2 is faster in ST, GPU, AI, and video editing. It's slower on MT. To me, the M2 is overall faster. Especially when unplugged which will cause Alder Lake to significantly drop in performance. What is your definition of faster?
      - GeekyBear 4y ago
        > Especially when unplugged which will cause Alder Lake to significantly drop in performance. At least in a laptop, it's not just when you unplug the laptop that performance drops. You've also got to have enough volume in the laptop to shoehorn in a major cooling system if you're going to keep the P series processors from throttling. For instance, Lenovo's thin and light ThinkPad X1 Yoga has two fans but still throttles: >Unfortunately, the laptop got uncomfortably hot in its Best performance mode during testing, even with light workloads. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/07/review-lenovos-thinkpad-x1-yoga-gen-7-looks-good-but-feels-warm/5/#h2 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/07/review-lenovos-think... Or the Dell XPS 13 Plus: >the XPS 13 Plus’ fan was really struggling here because, boy oh boy, did this thing get hot. After a few hours of regular use (which, in my case, is a dozen or so Chrome tabs with Slack running over top), this laptop was boiling. I was getting uncomfortable keeping my hands on the palm rests and typing on the keyboard. Putting it on my lap was off the table. https://www.theverge.com/23284276/dell-xps-13-plus-intel-2022-review https://www.theverge.com/23284276/dell-xps-13-plus-intel-202... Intel's P series chips in a device without a massive heat sink and fans can't hit those high clocks that their performance benchmarks rely on.