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Barbara Liskov, the Architect of Modern Algorithms

39 points by larve 4y ago

pjmlp 4y ago
CLU was a very nice language for its time, 1975. https://pmg.csail.mit.edu/CLU.html https://pmg.csail.mit.edu/CLU.html Meanwhile at Bell Labs they were busy with C....
- EdwardCoffin 4y ago
  I recently read her A History of CLU (can be found from the page linked to above). It was quite interesting to see the design principles, and the various design decisions they took.
- nivertech 4y ago
  I've read CLU book as a kid, though I didn't had a compiler for it. In retrospective it was a good move to learn a proper ADT* before the OOP mess. I think it also introduced the concept of iterators. -- *) Abstract Data Types
victorstanciu 4y ago
This is the same Liskov of the Liskov Substitution Principle, the L in SOLID.
g42gregory 4y ago
Interesting interview from a great researcher with many contributions to the field. I wish there were less ideological overtones in this article. I really think her life's legacy deserves better than this discussion. Why not talk about actual Computer Science and what she did?
- stefantalpalaru 4y ago
  > Why not talk about actual Computer Science and what she did? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Liskov#Career https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Liskov#Career
- Planktonne 4y ago
  > I really think her life's legacy deserves better than this discussion. Absolutely; we should just be able to focus solely on her accomplishments. But that's not the society that we're in, and ignoring reality because it's uncomfortable will do far more of a disservice to her legacy than actually discussing it will. She did face extra obstacles and hurdles because of sexism, and that's a bad thing that should be changed. Acknowledging it is the first, very minor step towards ensuring that brilliant researchers in the future don't have to spend as much time battling bias. They'll be able to spend more time making contributions to the field.
- dabraham1248 4y ago
  > Why not talk about actual Computer Science and what she did? She was a prime mover in doubling the number of people who were allowed into the field. Personally, I think that's bigger than the LSP.
electric_dreams 4y ago

39 points by larve 4y ago

CLU was a very nice language for its time, 1975. https://pmg.csail.mit.edu/CLU.html https://pmg.csail.mit.edu/CLU.html Meanwhile at Bell Labs they were busy with C....

EdwardCoffin 4y ago
I recently read her A History of CLU (can be found from the page linked to above). It was quite interesting to see the design principles, and the various design decisions they took.
nivertech 4y ago
I've read CLU book as a kid, though I didn't had a compiler for it. In retrospective it was a good move to learn a proper ADT* before the OOP mess. I think it also introduced the concept of iterators. -- *) Abstract Data Types

victorstanciu 4y ago

This is the same Liskov of the Liskov Substitution Principle, the L in SOLID.

g42gregory 4y ago

Interesting interview from a great researcher with many contributions to the field. I wish there were less ideological overtones in this article. I really think her life's legacy deserves better than this discussion. Why not talk about actual Computer Science and what she did?

stefantalpalaru 4y ago
> Why not talk about actual Computer Science and what she did? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Liskov#Career https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Liskov#Career
Planktonne 4y ago
> I really think her life's legacy deserves better than this discussion. Absolutely; we should just be able to focus solely on her accomplishments. But that's not the society that we're in, and ignoring reality because it's uncomfortable will do far more of a disservice to her legacy than actually discussing it will. She did face extra obstacles and hurdles because of sexism, and that's a bad thing that should be changed. Acknowledging it is the first, very minor step towards ensuring that brilliant researchers in the future don't have to spend as much time battling bias. They'll be able to spend more time making contributions to the field.
dabraham1248 4y ago
> Why not talk about actual Computer Science and what she did? She was a prime mover in doubling the number of people who were allowed into the field. Personally, I think that's bigger than the LSP.

electric_dreams 4y ago