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>- The LDS church is above the law, because they control it. Can't say they hijacked the state, because they founded it. There is no other place in the United S

>- The LDS church is above the law, because they control it. Can't say they hijacked the state, because they founded it. There is no other place in the United States controlled by a single faction like Utah, which should terrify you. Um? What? There's like a dozen states that are just as bad if not worse. The only difference is that the "faction" just happens to be the state branch of one of the two big national political parties instead of a religion. Heck, other than the whole anti-gay thing your description of Utah sounds just like my tiny northeast state. Actually now that I think about it our liquor laws are worse and I can't even buy fireworks despite the fact that this place is anything but arid...

herewulf 4y ago
Comparing Democratic/Republican parties to a theocratic church is laughable. They could only dream of being as organized and as wealthy. Imagine being required to give 10 to 20 percent of your income to a political party.
- throwaway0a5e 4y ago
  >Imagine being required to give 10 to 20 percent of your income to a political party. I don't need to imagine it. I pay my f-ing taxes. Between income, sales, property, fuel, sin taxes and government fees the state tax burden is probably close to 20%. Just like the Mormon church then go on to spend that money, a lot of it on good stuff that is helpful to everyone, but a ton of it is also spent on cronyism, make-work BS, enriching the leadership and those connected to it (with pretexts of course, they're not amateurs at this) and expanding the organization itself. Utah is the same as any other one-party state. It just so happens that the values-defining "club" that nearly everyone at every level of government belongs to is religious and not overtly political. Why is this so hard for you people to grasp?
  - ramesh31 4y ago
    >Utah is the same as any other one-party state. It just so happens that the values-defining "club" that nearly everyone at every level of government belongs to is religious and not overtly political. Why is this so hard for you people to grasp? Might have something to do with that whole pesky First Amendment thing.
  - metadat 4y ago
    You've clearly never lived in Utah. A cult is not the same thing as the American Government.

herewulf 4y ago

Comparing Democratic/Republican parties to a theocratic church is laughable. They could only dream of being as organized and as wealthy. Imagine being required to give 10 to 20 percent of your income to a political party.

throwaway0a5e 4y ago
>Imagine being required to give 10 to 20 percent of your income to a political party. I don't need to imagine it. I pay my f-ing taxes. Between income, sales, property, fuel, sin taxes and government fees the state tax burden is probably close to 20%. Just like the Mormon church then go on to spend that money, a lot of it on good stuff that is helpful to everyone, but a ton of it is also spent on cronyism, make-work BS, enriching the leadership and those connected to it (with pretexts of course, they're not amateurs at this) and expanding the organization itself. Utah is the same as any other one-party state. It just so happens that the values-defining "club" that nearly everyone at every level of government belongs to is religious and not overtly political. Why is this so hard for you people to grasp?
- ramesh31 4y ago
  >Utah is the same as any other one-party state. It just so happens that the values-defining "club" that nearly everyone at every level of government belongs to is religious and not overtly political. Why is this so hard for you people to grasp? Might have something to do with that whole pesky First Amendment thing.
- metadat 4y ago
  You've clearly never lived in Utah. A cult is not the same thing as the American Government.