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"The majority of charging will be done at home" ? With multifamily/apartment style homes, no way every parking place in the basement parking is getting a dedica

"The majority of charging will be done at home" ? With multifamily/apartment style homes, no way every parking place in the basement parking is getting a dedicated charger. "or maybe at work (I can see EV charging parking lots becoming a benefit)" - with work from home trend gaining traction ? "Quick-charged at restaurants" ? So, eating out for $50 per person and an hour to eat and quick-charge, instead of stopping for 5 minutes at the pump ? "It will be done cheaply, at home, at night" - no it won't. Majority of low pay workers won't be able to charge their EVs at home, even if they would be able to buy them. More "rich get richer, poor get poorer, and affected by running dirtier ICEs"

theshrike79 4y ago
"no way every parking place in the basement parking is getting a dedicated charger" Why not? Everyone in the nordics has done that for 50 years. A "dedicated charger" is just a normal outlet, it's not some high-tech piece of gear.
- outworlder 4y ago
  Yeah, even a 120V outlet would be sufficient for the vast majority. Ideally we would have EVSEs everywhere, but I'll settle for a lowly outlet.
ericbarrett 4y ago
My prediction: Businesses will spring up which offer to install chargers at an approachable cost (or even free) in mom-and-pop apartment complexes, with no fuss for the landlord. In return they'll take a big cut from the rate charged to the end-user, which will be much higher than the power company. Variations on this model might charge the property owner a monthly fee instead, or even squeeze both sides; the important thing is it won't be something that smaller landlords have to manage directly, so even if it's a cost they might opt for it, to be competitive (should the rental market ever swing back) or to meet local regulations. There are already enterprises with this model in things like billing, direct management, maintenance, etc.
thesuitonym 4y ago
>no way every parking place in the basement parking is getting a dedicated charger. Why not? 50 years ago, the same probably would have been said about putting air conditioning in every unit in an apartment. 100 years ago it might have been bathrooms. Why can't we have a charging cable at every parking spot? >So, eating out for $50 per person and an hour to eat and quick-charge, instead of stopping for 5 minutes at the pump ? Did you miss most of my post? That was in regards to long distance road trips, where people are stopping to eat several times per day anyway.

theshrike79 4y ago

"no way every parking place in the basement parking is getting a dedicated charger" Why not? Everyone in the nordics has done that for 50 years. A "dedicated charger" is just a normal outlet, it's not some high-tech piece of gear.

outworlder 4y ago
Yeah, even a 120V outlet would be sufficient for the vast majority. Ideally we would have EVSEs everywhere, but I'll settle for a lowly outlet.

ericbarrett 4y ago

My prediction: Businesses will spring up which offer to install chargers at an approachable cost (or even free) in mom-and-pop apartment complexes, with no fuss for the landlord. In return they'll take a big cut from the rate charged to the end-user, which will be much higher than the power company. Variations on this model might charge the property owner a monthly fee instead, or even squeeze both sides; the important thing is it won't be something that smaller landlords have to manage directly, so even if it's a cost they might opt for it, to be competitive (should the rental market ever swing back) or to meet local regulations. There are already enterprises with this model in things like billing, direct management, maintenance, etc.

thesuitonym 4y ago

>no way every parking place in the basement parking is getting a dedicated charger. Why not? 50 years ago, the same probably would have been said about putting air conditioning in every unit in an apartment. 100 years ago it might have been bathrooms. Why can't we have a charging cable at every parking spot? >So, eating out for $50 per person and an hour to eat and quick-charge, instead of stopping for 5 minutes at the pump ? Did you miss most of my post? That was in regards to long distance road trips, where people are stopping to eat several times per day anyway.