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> it means you don't have to give everyone you buy things from direct access to your bank account, as a debit card does I disagree that this means "giving some
by Nextgrid 4y ago
> it means you don't have to give everyone you buy things from direct access to your bank account, as a debit card does
I disagree that this means "giving someone else access to all your money". First off, you're authorizing a single transaction, and second, your bank is still the one mediating the transaction - if you experience fraud, what's actually happening is that your bank is the one who got defrauded by someone pretending to be you (by stealing your card/PIN/etc) and fraudulently convinced the bank to give them your money.
I disagree that a debit card doesn't involve financial intermediation. The bank is still the intermediary and holds the money, just that the hold duration is seconds instead of a month (well technically settlement or presentment happens a few days after authorization, but that's all transparent to the cardholder). There's no technical difference, the difference is purely regulatory and there's no reason the regulations can't be amended to give debit card holders the same protections as credit card holders.
> Ask anyone who has had their debit card info stolen and had funds fraudulently taken direct from their bank account.
I don't know about you but all instances of fraud I had on my debit cards have been resolved painlessly. Most fraud gets resolved by card network disputes which don't care about the card type. The only time credit cards get preferential treatment is when card network disputes fail and the law forces lenders (but not debit card issuers) to eat the fraudulent transaction anyway, but those instances are relatively rare.
- pdonis 4y ago> I disagree that this means "giving someone else access to all your money". It means giving someone the information that is required to withdraw money directly from your account. Yes, they're only supposed to withdraw the amount you specifically authorized for that transaction, but the fact remains that you have given them direct access to your account. The same risk exists when you write a check. Mitigating that risk by having a financial intermediary involved is, as I said, a genuine service. If you personally don't value that service, then of course you would not use it. But others do value it. > all instances of fraud I had on my debit cards have been resolved painlessly. That's fine, but I have known plenty of people who did not have the same painless experience.
- pdonis 4y ago> I disagree that a debit card doesn't involve financial intermediation. The bank is still the intermediary and holds the money But there's still only one transaction involved: the bank pays the merchant directly from your bank account. With a credit card, there are two transactions: the credit card company pays the merchant and you pay the credit card company in a separate transaction (and of course you pay once for multiple purchases made with the card). That's the intermediation that is not present with a debit card.