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Maybe it's just, that the European law makers understand the risk of being are to transfer sensitive persona data into other legislations, and that a local regi

Maybe it's just, that the European law makers understand the risk of being are to transfer sensitive persona data into other legislations, and that a local registered company doesn't mean there are technical bounds.

blocked_again 4y ago
- johannes1234321 4y ago
  I am not sure which exact incident you are after, but NSA, the largest operater of surveillance in Europe is American and GCHQ, the second alrgest, is British and also outside EU these days. But yes, there are some actions by European governments i condemn. However as a European citizen I have ways to counter actions by a European government. By voting, by legal means etc. Into the US I have now range and the US has very little responsibility towards me. Laws protecting Americans or actions in America don't protect me as a foreigner. That said: The court case here at hand was about the government being the (indirect) customer of that cloud. Thus it's their data amthey want to be protected from foreign governments.
- xdennis 4y ago
  If you store data in your own country with non-American companies you're protected by your country's judicial system. If you use an American company or American-based company you're subject to illegal spying from the NSA or extra-judicial warrants from the CLOUD Act (which compels Americans to apply American law outside the US).
  - tzs 4y ago
    > or extra-judicial warrants from the CLOUD Act What is an "extra-judicial warrant"?
- CBarkleyU 4y ago
  > From what we know, so far, it was the EU countries which elected politicians that went after their own people. Not the US. Please stick to Reddit with cheap rhetoric like that.
  - blocked_again 4y ago
    How is citing one of biggest human crisis of last century against the same country which did it against their own citizens a cheap shot. It's totally relevant.
- dang 4y ago
  We've banned this account for posting flamewar comments, not just in this thread but in others. Please don't create accounts to do that with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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johannes1234321 4y ago
I am not sure which exact incident you are after, but NSA, the largest operater of surveillance in Europe is American and GCHQ, the second alrgest, is British and also outside EU these days. But yes, there are some actions by European governments i condemn. However as a European citizen I have ways to counter actions by a European government. By voting, by legal means etc. Into the US I have now range and the US has very little responsibility towards me. Laws protecting Americans or actions in America don't protect me as a foreigner. That said: The court case here at hand was about the government being the (indirect) customer of that cloud. Thus it's their data amthey want to be protected from foreign governments.
xdennis 4y ago
If you store data in your own country with non-American companies you're protected by your country's judicial system. If you use an American company or American-based company you're subject to illegal spying from the NSA or extra-judicial warrants from the CLOUD Act (which compels Americans to apply American law outside the US).
- tzs 4y ago
  > or extra-judicial warrants from the CLOUD Act What is an "extra-judicial warrant"?
CBarkleyU 4y ago
> From what we know, so far, it was the EU countries which elected politicians that went after their own people. Not the US. Please stick to Reddit with cheap rhetoric like that.
- blocked_again 4y ago
  How is citing one of biggest human crisis of last century against the same country which did it against their own citizens a cheap shot. It's totally relevant.
dang 4y ago
We've banned this account for posting flamewar comments, not just in this thread but in others. Please don't create accounts to do that with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html