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The thing about the AK is that it really was designed to be a cheap weapon to put in the hands of masses of soldiers. It gives large squads of soldiers the abi

The thing about the AK is that it really was designed to be a cheap weapon to put in the hands of masses of soldiers. It gives large squads of soldiers the ability to spray-and-pray in devastating fashion. 7.62x39 tumbles pretty well and under auto-fire, does a decent job of eating up concrete to hit targets behind walls. This was the Soviet doctrine of ground war immediately post-WW2. This countered the US Western doctrine which emphasized precision, and more limited resources in terms of soldiers and weapons. So you're right. The AK isn't accurate, and it didn't matter. It does what it's designed to do very well.

SV_BubbleTime 4y ago
>7.62x39 tumbles pretty well and under auto-fire, Gun wives tale. No bullets are designed to tumble in air - ever.
- snapetom 4y ago
  Where did I say it tumbles in the air?
  - omniglottal 4y ago
    Precisely where you said it "tumbles". If not in air, then where were you refering to this tumbling occurring?
    - SV_BubbleTime 4y ago
      He is (probably) referring to tumbling when it hits a body which is also a ton of misinformation. When a bullet hits, you want it to fragment and dump all its energy into the target and not exit. Or expand and stop, which is better. Leaving means it still had some energy. So because the sectional density and makeup of the cheap 7.62x39 bullets when coupled with their relative low velocity won’t fragment, their only option is to tumble. This is obviously going to happen and not part of the design. “Thing flying through the air suddenly hitting something makes it unstable” isn’t magic. So the claim by AK people is that it tumbles - by design! When really, it failed to fragment or expand. So “it tumbles well” is really bad when they talk about air which is a bad muzzle crown or bad rifling, bad bullets… but not much better when talking about terminal ballistics. There are some decently expanding x93 hunting rounds, but like two maybe. This discussion revolves around military and surplus ammo. It’s wrong either way, but less wrong than air which is a common belief.

SV_BubbleTime 4y ago

>7.62x39 tumbles pretty well and under auto-fire, Gun wives tale. No bullets are designed to tumble in air - ever.

snapetom 4y ago
Where did I say it tumbles in the air?
- omniglottal 4y ago
  Precisely where you said it "tumbles". If not in air, then where were you refering to this tumbling occurring?
  - SV_BubbleTime 4y ago
    He is (probably) referring to tumbling when it hits a body which is also a ton of misinformation. When a bullet hits, you want it to fragment and dump all its energy into the target and not exit. Or expand and stop, which is better. Leaving means it still had some energy. So because the sectional density and makeup of the cheap 7.62x39 bullets when coupled with their relative low velocity won’t fragment, their only option is to tumble. This is obviously going to happen and not part of the design. “Thing flying through the air suddenly hitting something makes it unstable” isn’t magic. So the claim by AK people is that it tumbles - by design! When really, it failed to fragment or expand. So “it tumbles well” is really bad when they talk about air which is a bad muzzle crown or bad rifling, bad bullets… but not much better when talking about terminal ballistics. There are some decently expanding x93 hunting rounds, but like two maybe. This discussion revolves around military and surplus ammo. It’s wrong either way, but less wrong than air which is a common belief.