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Literally an arms race.

by guerrilla 4y ago

HPsquared 4y ago
Face race?
- b112 4y ago
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  - dang 4y ago
    Would you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments to HN? You've been doing it repeatedly, it's against the site guidelines, we end up banning such accounts, and we've had to warn you more than once before. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. Note this one, just to pick one example: "Eschew flamebait. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents." That's one of the most important rules for avoiding what turns internet threads dumb and nasty.
    - b112 4y ago
      Not sure what to say to this one. Women can get sensitive, if requests of them can be seen in an unpleasant light. Women have also been historically tricked into posing for cameras, had their images misused, and are often quite sensitive about it. I thought my comment was legit, and on topic. If one is going to implement a policy where people have to slowly move their camera around their body, there may be severe misunderstandings ... and an inability to clarify if a bad response runs-away on twitter and such. Support persons should be carefully coached on how to handle this. I guess all I can say here is, I didn't mean this to be so controversial. Sorry.
      - dang 4y ago
        The greater problem is that you've been breaking the site guidelines repeatedly. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32364710 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32364710 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32364583 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32364583 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32299889 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32299889 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32299875 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32299875 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32295137 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32295137 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32292576 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32292576 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32292440 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32292440 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32290426 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32290426 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32289581 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32289581 We ban accounts that keep doing that, so would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and take the intended spirit of curious conversation more to heart? Tedious flamewar, especially the back-and-forth, tit-for-tat kind, is exactly what we don't want here.´
        b112 4y ago
        Listen, I'm willing to try to adhere more closely. I see how some of the above posts click with what you're complaining about. One suggestion ; some news articles are just, almost, entrapment. I feel like HN having an article about racism, is going to entice all sorts of comments which break the site guidelines. Take my posts above ; I legitimately am concerned that by simply labeling those we are strongly opposed to, eg racists, we fail. If we just label, if we therefore misunderstand their motivations, any attempts at correction become flawed, and just plain don't work. I want positive corrective action to fix things, not divisive posturing. Obviously in hindsight I should not have waded in, I should have realised how my post, my motivations could be misunderstood. I agree, my bad. 100%. But once there, I'm left in this horrid position of suddenly feeling as if I'm being labelled as a racist sympathizer or some such. A reputation is a hard thing to leave on the ground, with no response! Perhaps I should find better ways to wade out. Anyhow, are we OK for now?

Literally an arms race.

HPsquared 4y ago

Face race?

b112 4y ago
[flagged]
- dang 4y ago
  Would you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments to HN? You've been doing it repeatedly, it's against the site guidelines, we end up banning such accounts, and we've had to warn you more than once before. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. Note this one, just to pick one example: "Eschew flamebait. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents." That's one of the most important rules for avoiding what turns internet threads dumb and nasty.
  - b112 4y ago
    Not sure what to say to this one. Women can get sensitive, if requests of them can be seen in an unpleasant light. Women have also been historically tricked into posing for cameras, had their images misused, and are often quite sensitive about it. I thought my comment was legit, and on topic. If one is going to implement a policy where people have to slowly move their camera around their body, there may be severe misunderstandings ... and an inability to clarify if a bad response runs-away on twitter and such. Support persons should be carefully coached on how to handle this. I guess all I can say here is, I didn't mean this to be so controversial. Sorry.
    - dang 4y ago
      The greater problem is that you've been breaking the site guidelines repeatedly. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32364710 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32364710 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32364583 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32364583 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32299889 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32299889 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32299875 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32299875 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32295137 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32295137 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32292576 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32292576 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32292440 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32292440 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32290426 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32290426 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32289581 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32289581 We ban accounts that keep doing that, so would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and take the intended spirit of curious conversation more to heart? Tedious flamewar, especially the back-and-forth, tit-for-tat kind, is exactly what we don't want here.´
      - b112 4y ago
        Listen, I'm willing to try to adhere more closely. I see how some of the above posts click with what you're complaining about. One suggestion ; some news articles are just, almost, entrapment. I feel like HN having an article about racism, is going to entice all sorts of comments which break the site guidelines. Take my posts above ; I legitimately am concerned that by simply labeling those we are strongly opposed to, eg racists, we fail. If we just label, if we therefore misunderstand their motivations, any attempts at correction become flawed, and just plain don't work. I want positive corrective action to fix things, not divisive posturing. Obviously in hindsight I should not have waded in, I should have realised how my post, my motivations could be misunderstood. I agree, my bad. 100%. But once there, I'm left in this horrid position of suddenly feeling as if I'm being labelled as a racist sympathizer or some such. A reputation is a hard thing to leave on the ground, with no response! Perhaps I should find better ways to wade out. Anyhow, are we OK for now?