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I wish "average karma" was still a metric on this site. I think it helped provide a gauge to help people decide between leaving valuable comments vs. just leav

by ratg13 4y ago

I wish "average karma" was still a metric on this site. I think it helped provide a gauge to help people decide between leaving valuable comments vs. just leaving as many comments as possible.

goodpoint 4y ago
Early comments aligned with the echo chamber are the most upvoted. Little to do with 'value'.
- ratg13 4y ago
  Yes, but at least it prevented some people from leaving followup comments with little value. e.g. - that feeling of having to respond to the person that responded to you, rather than giving the community a chance to respond. worked for me at least.
- 4ggr0 4y ago
  I'm not saying that this is necessarily good, but it is kind of expected. People click on threads which are interesting to them, according to their topic. If you're interested in a topic, you most likely view it positively, or as you would put it, you're part of it's echo-chamber. If you then see a positive, reaffirming comment, you'll probably like it. Doesn't seem that bad to me, especially because I frequently see that the most upvoted reply to the top comment are often contrarian, starting discussions etc. Echo chamber is such an overused word. In other words, you define that people are part of an echo chamber because you personally don't agree with the majority, which makes you a bit of a contrarian, reactionary hater ;) (exaggerating a bit here)
smcl 4y ago
Isn't the "karma" calculated from both upvotes on your comments and your submissions? If so this could easily end up being a pretty bad metric for deciding which users leave valuable comments - a couple of front page stories will send your score through the roof. Additionally, I think simple 1-scoring comments don't contribute to your karma - it's when they get upvoted that they count. So spamming a bunch of useless stuff won't help, and to be honest people are likely to see and start downvoting/flagging you. It's probably not worth caring about the points you get, as long as you're not saying a bunch of abusive stuff and getting flagged or shadowbanned :D Edit: confirmed my suspicion re "1 point" comments not adding 1 point to your karma: I was on 8700 before hitting "reply" and I'm still on 8700 immediately after.
- CRConrad 4y ago
  The "karma" value seems to climb with number of comments, only it's calculated with a lag. I think that's why your "immediately after" check showed no change. Now that it's been a couple weeks, can you recall if you hit 8701 in the half-a-day or so after posting the above?
TigeriusKirk 4y ago
At this point, a lot of the leader list are accounts who have posted a lot over a very long period. I don't give them any special weight, and in some cases I give them less weight due to how much they post.

by ratg13 4y ago

I wish "average karma" was still a metric on this site. I think it helped provide a gauge to help people decide between leaving valuable comments vs. just leaving as many comments as possible.

goodpoint 4y ago

Early comments aligned with the echo chamber are the most upvoted. Little to do with 'value'.

ratg13 4y ago
Yes, but at least it prevented some people from leaving followup comments with little value. e.g. - that feeling of having to respond to the person that responded to you, rather than giving the community a chance to respond. worked for me at least.
4ggr0 4y ago
I'm not saying that this is necessarily good, but it is kind of expected. People click on threads which are interesting to them, according to their topic. If you're interested in a topic, you most likely view it positively, or as you would put it, you're part of it's echo-chamber. If you then see a positive, reaffirming comment, you'll probably like it. Doesn't seem that bad to me, especially because I frequently see that the most upvoted reply to the top comment are often contrarian, starting discussions etc. Echo chamber is such an overused word. In other words, you define that people are part of an echo chamber because you personally don't agree with the majority, which makes you a bit of a contrarian, reactionary hater ;) (exaggerating a bit here)

smcl 4y ago

Isn't the "karma" calculated from both upvotes on your comments and your submissions? If so this could easily end up being a pretty bad metric for deciding which users leave valuable comments - a couple of front page stories will send your score through the roof. Additionally, I think simple 1-scoring comments don't contribute to your karma - it's when they get upvoted that they count. So spamming a bunch of useless stuff won't help, and to be honest people are likely to see and start downvoting/flagging you. It's probably not worth caring about the points you get, as long as you're not saying a bunch of abusive stuff and getting flagged or shadowbanned :D Edit: confirmed my suspicion re "1 point" comments not adding 1 point to your karma: I was on 8700 before hitting "reply" and I'm still on 8700 immediately after.

CRConrad 4y ago
The "karma" value seems to climb with number of comments, only it's calculated with a lag. I think that's why your "immediately after" check showed no change. Now that it's been a couple weeks, can you recall if you hit 8701 in the half-a-day or so after posting the above?

TigeriusKirk 4y ago

At this point, a lot of the leader list are accounts who have posted a lot over a very long period. I don't give them any special weight, and in some cases I give them less weight due to how much they post.