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>But no, Tesla isn't storing our driving history. At least not deliberately, and certainly with no intent to use it or provide it. Is this opt-in? Can you chos

>But no, Tesla isn't storing our driving history. At least not deliberately, and certainly with no intent to use it or provide it. Is this opt-in? Can you chose not to send telemtry to Tesla?> >It's worth pointing out the level of double standard here: Tesla's location history storage is actually much more limited in practice than what you get on iOS or Android, yet... no front page articles on HN about those?) There is no double standard, how many HNers will complain about Microsoft telemetry in Windows or VS Code, or the telemetry in Google Chrome? Probably Apple fans are fine with Apple knowing what apps they open and at what time and tons of other telemetry.

judge2020 4y ago
Out of the box, Tesla sends anonymized location data (the anonymization can't be perfect as the article points out) for traffic data reporting. Otherwise, pretty much every system in the car like the headlights, CAN bus, ABS, door and window microcontrollers, HVAC, battery management system, etc. are both updated during OTA updates, and send tons of telemetry to the main computer for processing and streaming to HQ, allowing Tesla to do extreme optimization and analysis on how well their parts are working and how efficient they are, with the ability to get cars in for service long before a problem turns into a catastrophic failure or makes the vehicle undriveable.
- simion314 4y ago
  When I had to implement similar stuff in a program I created the user was Always prompted and the user had an easy way to check the data that was sent and they could deny sending the report. I assume the car has enough computing power to self diagnose any component issue and you don't need to send your logs to the cloud for a super computer to see that your battery is broken. My guess is like all telemetry, it is done for the company benefit not the user.

judge2020 4y ago

Out of the box, Tesla sends anonymized location data (the anonymization can't be perfect as the article points out) for traffic data reporting. Otherwise, pretty much every system in the car like the headlights, CAN bus, ABS, door and window microcontrollers, HVAC, battery management system, etc. are both updated during OTA updates, and send tons of telemetry to the main computer for processing and streaming to HQ, allowing Tesla to do extreme optimization and analysis on how well their parts are working and how efficient they are, with the ability to get cars in for service long before a problem turns into a catastrophic failure or makes the vehicle undriveable.

simion314 4y ago
When I had to implement similar stuff in a program I created the user was Always prompted and the user had an easy way to check the data that was sent and they could deny sending the report. I assume the car has enough computing power to self diagnose any component issue and you don't need to send your logs to the cloud for a super computer to see that your battery is broken. My guess is like all telemetry, it is done for the company benefit not the user.