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"the brains part came from Ukraine" The brains that developed it worked in Moscow in the 80s[0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurs_(docking_navigation_sy

by gdy 4y ago

"the brains part came from Ukraine" The brains that developed it worked in Moscow in the 80s[0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurs_(docking_navigation_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurs_(docking_navigation_syste...

trasz 4y ago
But the brains that made it work were in Kyiv. It took Russia over ten years (and probably tons of imported electronics) to replace it.
- gdy 4y ago
  I don't see what point you are trying to make. Russia has almost completely replaced obsolete Soviet electronics of both Soyuz spacecraft and Soyuz rocket with modern tech. http://www.russianspaceweb.com/soyuz2-1a.html http://www.russianspaceweb.com/soyuz2-1a.html http://www.russianspaceweb.com/soyuz-ms.html http://www.russianspaceweb.com/soyuz-ms.html
  - trasz 4y ago
    Given that Russia can’t even manufacture ordinary cars (or phones, or computers…), I’m not convinced about this “modern” replacement. They probably just figured how to replace custom technology with COTS stuff bought from the West. Especially given Russian fakes like the Sputnik vaccine (“clinical tests” were made up), or their hypersonics (which are just a plane-launched ballistic missiles), or drones.
    - gdy 4y ago
      And yet it delivers cosmonauts to ISS in 3 hours [0], something that is out of reach for Western tech. "their hypersonics (which are just a plane-launched ballistic missiles)" You are confusing Zircon [2] with Kinzhal [1]. [0] https://www.space.com/soyuz-makes-fastest-space-station-crew-flight-record https://www.space.com/soyuz-makes-fastest-space-station-crew... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-47M2_Kinzhal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-47M2_Kinzhal [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M22_Zircon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M22_Zircon
      - trasz 4y ago
        Well, sure it did, it’s a good old Soviet design. Too bad it’s dead now, but hey. As for confusing - nope, both “hypersonics” are hypersonic by name only. We could see their fantastic performance on that barn.
        gdy 4y ago
        Soviet rockets weren't capable of such accuracy.
        trasz 4y ago
        Indeed, hitting a random barn was never more accurate :-D
        gdy 4y ago
        You must be a child.

by gdy 4y ago

trasz 4y ago

But the brains that made it work were in Kyiv. It took Russia over ten years (and probably tons of imported electronics) to replace it.

gdy 4y ago
I don't see what point you are trying to make. Russia has almost completely replaced obsolete Soviet electronics of both Soyuz spacecraft and Soyuz rocket with modern tech. http://www.russianspaceweb.com/soyuz2-1a.html http://www.russianspaceweb.com/soyuz2-1a.html http://www.russianspaceweb.com/soyuz-ms.html http://www.russianspaceweb.com/soyuz-ms.html
- trasz 4y ago
  Given that Russia can’t even manufacture ordinary cars (or phones, or computers…), I’m not convinced about this “modern” replacement. They probably just figured how to replace custom technology with COTS stuff bought from the West. Especially given Russian fakes like the Sputnik vaccine (“clinical tests” were made up), or their hypersonics (which are just a plane-launched ballistic missiles), or drones.
  - gdy 4y ago
    And yet it delivers cosmonauts to ISS in 3 hours [0], something that is out of reach for Western tech. "their hypersonics (which are just a plane-launched ballistic missiles)" You are confusing Zircon [2] with Kinzhal [1]. [0] https://www.space.com/soyuz-makes-fastest-space-station-crew-flight-record https://www.space.com/soyuz-makes-fastest-space-station-crew... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-47M2_Kinzhal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-47M2_Kinzhal [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M22_Zircon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M22_Zircon
    - trasz 4y ago
      Well, sure it did, it’s a good old Soviet design. Too bad it’s dead now, but hey. As for confusing - nope, both “hypersonics” are hypersonic by name only. We could see their fantastic performance on that barn.
      - gdy 4y ago
        Soviet rockets weren't capable of such accuracy.
        trasz 4y ago
        Indeed, hitting a random barn was never more accurate :-D
        gdy 4y ago
        You must be a child.