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No, in fact it is explicitly identified as a war crime by the Geneva convention. Air crew abandoning a plane are distinct from airborne paratroopers in this re

No, in fact it is explicitly identified as a war crime by the Geneva convention. Air crew abandoning a plane are distinct from airborne paratroopers in this regard - for obvious reasons.

fsckboy 4y ago
not obvious at all. An ejected pilot over enemy territory, ok, but an ejected pilot over his home territory, seems like still a combatant to me.
charcircuit 4y ago
I agree that it's not obvious. No one can shoot you, but you can still shoot other people. It's pretty much gives them god mode.
- chrisseaton 4y ago
  > No one can shoot you, but you can still shoot other people. This isn’t true. If you start shooting people it’s perfidy and you become a combatant again and they can shoot you.
  - charcircuit 4y ago
    Then just temporarily surrender after each shot. The game designers didn't add any kind of cooldown as far as I can tell so you can abuse the mechanic. There are just some restrictions in who you can shoot depending on if they take actions based off you surrendering.
    - chrisseaton 4y ago
      > Then just temporarily surrender after each shot. That’s still perfidy! > The game designers What game are you talking about? I mean the real laws of war. There’s no ‘cooldown’ - if you’re perfidious then you’re a combatant.
      - charcircuit 4y ago
        >That’s still perfidy! Do you have a definition? From my understanding surrendering for the purpose of keeping yourself alive is fine. If the enemy exposes themselves because of it you can not attack them. Perfidy is about attacking the enemy when they believe you are unable to attack because you for example surrendered. It bans offensive uses of surrendering, but not defensive usages. >What game are you talking about? The game of war of which countries have agreed upon a ruleset to play.
Mvandenbergh 4y ago
You're right that its explicitly identified that way but that's because it isn't obvious, if it was obvious they wouldn't have needed to be explicit about it. For example, retreating soldiers are absolutely still combatants but on the other hand sailors on a life raft are not. Is an ejected pilot like a retreating infantryman or like a sailor on a liferaft? The solution the drafters came up with is that he's a non-combatant while descending but once again becomes a combatant once landed.
MaxBarraclough 4y ago
Are ejected pilots likely to be armed?

No, in fact it is explicitly identified as a war crime by the Geneva convention. Air crew abandoning a plane are distinct from airborne paratroopers in this regard - for obvious reasons.

fsckboy 4y ago

not obvious at all. An ejected pilot over enemy territory, ok, but an ejected pilot over his home territory, seems like still a combatant to me.

charcircuit 4y ago

I agree that it's not obvious. No one can shoot you, but you can still shoot other people. It's pretty much gives them god mode.

chrisseaton 4y ago
> No one can shoot you, but you can still shoot other people. This isn’t true. If you start shooting people it’s perfidy and you become a combatant again and they can shoot you.
- charcircuit 4y ago
  Then just temporarily surrender after each shot. The game designers didn't add any kind of cooldown as far as I can tell so you can abuse the mechanic. There are just some restrictions in who you can shoot depending on if they take actions based off you surrendering.
  - chrisseaton 4y ago
    > Then just temporarily surrender after each shot. That’s still perfidy! > The game designers What game are you talking about? I mean the real laws of war. There’s no ‘cooldown’ - if you’re perfidious then you’re a combatant.
    - charcircuit 4y ago
      >That’s still perfidy! Do you have a definition? From my understanding surrendering for the purpose of keeping yourself alive is fine. If the enemy exposes themselves because of it you can not attack them. Perfidy is about attacking the enemy when they believe you are unable to attack because you for example surrendered. It bans offensive uses of surrendering, but not defensive usages. >What game are you talking about? The game of war of which countries have agreed upon a ruleset to play.

Mvandenbergh 4y ago

You're right that its explicitly identified that way but that's because it isn't obvious, if it was obvious they wouldn't have needed to be explicit about it. For example, retreating soldiers are absolutely still combatants but on the other hand sailors on a life raft are not. Is an ejected pilot like a retreating infantryman or like a sailor on a liferaft? The solution the drafters came up with is that he's a non-combatant while descending but once again becomes a combatant once landed.

MaxBarraclough 4y ago

Are ejected pilots likely to be armed?