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> unpaid overtime Nobody is saying oncall should be unpaid, especially not in this subthread you're commenting on. Did you lose the thread of the conversation?

• sidlls 4y ago
  Being paid at 2/3 base is technically not "unpaid" and it's better than most other tech companies, but it's hardly laudable. They're basically saying your life (literally--the time you spend on-call is time you never get back) is worth less when you're working for them, but outside office hours. I will probably never cease to be amazed at how naive software engineers can be. It's like the relatively high base salaries act as bedazzling enchantments that turn off parts of the rational brain.
  • joshuamorton 4y ago
    No, they're saying the inconvenience of having to be (approximately) butt-in-desk doing your job is greater than the inconvenience of having to be near your home. And that is absolutely true.
    • nfhshy68 4y ago
      It depends how much you value your time outside of your 40. I value it at time and a half. If you want me to work those hours at time and a half or you want me to sit by a phone both is fine but that's how much it costs. More than happy for the market to eat my lunch. I'll eat mine, uninterrupted.