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Quite possibly; Ukraine was a major scientific and engineering hub in USSR. Many of the things we recognise USSR for came from Ukraine, from Mriya to much of t

• gdy 4y ago
  "where the civilised part of the Russian civilisation originates" That's was comical. Go on.
  • Koshkin 4y ago
    Well, comical or not, this is one of the ways Russian propaganda explains the need to occupy Ukraine (and to eventually make it part of Russia).
    • trasz 4y ago
      Except they claim it's the exact opposite way of course.
      • gdy 4y ago
        Of course not. 'Kiev is mother of all Russian cities' and all that stuff, but nothing about separating Slavic cultures into 'civilized' and 'uncivilized'.
        • trasz 4y ago
          There's a fundamental difference between "Kyiv is mother of all Russian cities and thus its superior culture needs to be preserved" and "Kyiv is mother of all Russian cities and thus must be destroyed so that the bastardised Russian derivatives don't look too bad in comparison". Also, you don't see a problem with using a name promoted by the regime ("Kiev") instead of the proper one?
          • gdy 4y ago
            You won't find any Russian propaganda calling for destruction of the Ukrainian cities. You don't get to dictate how I write. I don't tell you how to spell Moskva.
            • trasz 4y ago
              >You won't find any Russian propaganda calling for destruction of the Ukrainian cities. Of course I will; Rashist propaganda has been openly genocidal for a while now: https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1643268/Putin-Margarita-Simonyan-Russia-TV-Ukraine-Russia-genocide-vn https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1643268/Putin-Margarita... Bucha and Mariupol didn't commit themselves. >I don't tell you how to spell Moskva, you don't tell me how to spell either. So you'd be fine with people using names like Koenigsberg, or Theodorichhafen, or Ostland?
              • gdy 4y ago
                Of course you didn't. As far as I can tell from this clipped fragment, these two talk about absorbing the Ukraine into Russia (or splitting it with Poland and Hungary, this idea is occasionally aired too) and 'denazification'. If you object to calling neo-Nazis 'helminth', I'd agree because no human should be dehumanized. So, unless you really find a call for the destruction of the Ukrainian cities, please don't make me watch any propaganda. 'Bucha and Mariupol didn't commit themselves.' Bucha wasn't destroyed and Russian propaganda worked hard to convince Russian population that Bucha is fake news. The extent of the damage done to Mariupol (a city with 95% of Russian speakers, btw) was hidden by propaganda for some time and then they started showing the city and talking how Russia would rebuild it. Mariupol was held hostage by infamous neo-Nazi Azov regiment [0] which like other Ukrainian forces operating in the Eastern Ukraine use civilians as human shield: 'Ukraine: Ukrainian fighting tactics endanger civilians Military bases set up in residential areas including schools and hospitals Attacks launched from populated civilian areas' [1] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Regiment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Regiment [1] https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrai...
    • gdy 4y ago
      Obviously, the comical bit is 'the civilised part'.