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> No one is desperate due to the circumstances created by the USA. They make the conscious choice to become a criminal. Man, if any quote could be used to show

> No one is desperate due to the circumstances created by the USA. They make the conscious choice to become a criminal. Man, if any quote could be used to show how HN should not be taken seriously on any topic that strays outside of the strict definition of STEM-related, this could be a contender. I don't even know where to begin, but consider the fact that people are born into situations far more horrible than you may ever truly comprehend, where criminal acts and lifestyles are as normal to them as anything you would find normal to yourself growing up.

nemo44x 4y ago
> I don't even know where to begin Possibly because you don’t have a good point to make. Most people that grow up in bad places or situations don’t become criminals. Criminal acts may occur more frequently in certain places but the vast majority of people from those places do not become criminals. And what do you know about me growing up? I grew up around a lot of these types of “horrible situations” and most the kids turned out. Sone choose to commit crimes and sone died or were incarcerated because of those choices.
- virgildotcodes 4y ago
  > Possibly because you don’t have a good point to make. Consider the other possibilities. If someone confidently told you that our flat Earth is 6,000 years old, where would you begin? There's a lot to unpack, and you're not even certain if all the work will be worth doing or just a waste of time. > Most people that grow up in bad places or situations don’t become criminals. Most people who smoke don't get lung cancer. So by your logic have we proven that smoking doesn't cause lung cancer? Poverty, in the US and globally, is correlated with higher crime rates. Isn't it such a strange coincidence that people who happen to be born into poverty also consistently happen to "choose" to commit more crimes, given that their environment has nothing to do with their choices? Shouldn't crime rates be equal across all socioeconomic classes? > I grew up around a lot of these types of “horrible situations” and most the kids turned out. Again, most people who do X don't end up Y is in no way a valid argument that X doesn't cause Y.

nemo44x 4y ago

> I don't even know where to begin Possibly because you don’t have a good point to make. Most people that grow up in bad places or situations don’t become criminals. Criminal acts may occur more frequently in certain places but the vast majority of people from those places do not become criminals. And what do you know about me growing up? I grew up around a lot of these types of “horrible situations” and most the kids turned out. Sone choose to commit crimes and sone died or were incarcerated because of those choices.

virgildotcodes 4y ago
> Possibly because you don’t have a good point to make. Consider the other possibilities. If someone confidently told you that our flat Earth is 6,000 years old, where would you begin? There's a lot to unpack, and you're not even certain if all the work will be worth doing or just a waste of time. > Most people that grow up in bad places or situations don’t become criminals. Most people who smoke don't get lung cancer. So by your logic have we proven that smoking doesn't cause lung cancer? Poverty, in the US and globally, is correlated with higher crime rates. Isn't it such a strange coincidence that people who happen to be born into poverty also consistently happen to "choose" to commit more crimes, given that their environment has nothing to do with their choices? Shouldn't crime rates be equal across all socioeconomic classes? > I grew up around a lot of these types of “horrible situations” and most the kids turned out. Again, most people who do X don't end up Y is in no way a valid argument that X doesn't cause Y.