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There is almost nothing that bothers me more than the control of information. At least with this issue, however, the reasoning as to why data is being manipula
by ralusek 4y ago
There is almost nothing that bothers me more than the control of information.
At least with this issue, however, the reasoning as to why data is being manipulated is so abundantly clear that there is actually virtually no loss of information for the time being. The reality is that Asians largely constitute a problem for the prevailing narrative around racial and ethnic power dynamics. Indians, for example, despite being "brown," and despite being from a "developing" country, are overwhelmingly overrepresented in upper economic echelons. This holds true not just when compared to natively born Americans, but also when controlling for immigration and starting economic conditions. They're also extremely underrepresented in violent crime statistics. Many of these figures remain consistent across the board for Asians living in the US, despite living in a system "designed to explicitly benefit white men." The"model minority myth" is a pathetic manipulation of information in an attempt to account for the narrative-breaking statistics regarding Asian immigrants.
When it comes to violence against Asians, there are multiple reasons to muddy the waters, because there are multiple reasons why statistics cause problems. For one, it has been well established that the "racial" group that is overrepresented in violence against Asians is not "white" people. This is clearly a large problem on its own, but it isn't the only problem. The other problem is seeing how disproportionately low violent crime is within the Asian community, even when controlling for economic factors.
TL;DR this is unacceptable, but at least for now, completely predictable. In a decade or so, however, the information we had a year ago could be considered out of date, and narratives can be shielded from data.
- karmakurtisaani 4y agoIt feels a bit wrong to frame many things from the point of view of ethnicity, although that definitely has it's place too. If you look at these groups, you should see that many immigrants from Asia were already well off enough to immigrate, so in some sense mid-to-upper class of their societies. This is not by far the case for native Americans and African Americans, who have been oppressed for generations in America. To view things from the perspective of race just seems to miss a lot of essential substance.
- coryrc 4y agoMany Indian subpopulations have been oppressed for multiple times longer than the United States even existed, yet don't have the same problems. Why do you have such low expectations for a population with 5x the murder rate?
- karmakurtisaani 4y agoAnd do you think the most oppressed had the chance to immigrate to America?
- cuteboy19 4y agoYour point is very valid considering the caste distribution of Indian Americans. However, The homicide rate of India proper is 2.9 cases per 100,000 population. That of Asian Americans is about the same. The rate for African Americans is around 18
- karmakurtisaani 4y agoI bet you could find a subpopulation of India that is responsible of most of the homicides in the country. I bet you'd also find a lot of poverty, systemic oppression and alienation from society in that group. Then you'd start to perhaps understand the issue more broadly than by the color of skin. However, if you are motivated by ... other things, I'm sure you can just jump to conclusions and tell us all the statistics you have about African Americans.
- coryrc 4y ago> I bet you could find It seems you base your beliefs on things you imagine instead of facts.
- inglor_cz 4y agoYeah, it read like an article of faith rather than an analysis. It simply must be so. There are many examples in history where it was the privileged class/race/ethnicity/group that was the most murderous one. Spartiates, Normans, elites of Renaissance Italy, even Nazis (see: The Night of Long Knives).
- illuminerdy 4y ago> "For one, it has been well established that the "racial" group that is overrepresented in violence against Asians is not "white" people." Its a typical tactic of the media and the globalist. Find a problem, but instead of dealing with the real cause, find some way to turn it towards attacking the desired group. They did it with "black lives matter" except its summertime and every weekend for a decade you could find black people being murdered in record numbers in places like Chicago and Baltimore by other black people without so much as a peep from them. For some reason the 1% of deaths outweigh the 99% because the race of the shooter is ultimately what matters, not the fact that black people are dying.
- karmakurtisaani 4y agoI think the point of BLM was to draw attention to the police violence against black people.
- alphabettsy 4y agoI’m sure they’re aware. They’re missing the part where a lack of police accountability erodes the community trust in policing perpetuating a vicious cycle.
- illuminerdy 4y agoI have no issue with bringing attention to police violence against any citizen. The problem is that not every instance of police violence or killing is unjustified, which is the way it is portrayed by BLM and the media. In fact, most of them are justified based on the circumstances. Nor does it make sense to call your organization or movement "black lives matter" when you literally ignore the everyday violence in black communities that kills 99% of black people.
- honkkong420 4y ago