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The argument on the previous version of this website effectively boils down to two points: 1. Frans Pop was heavily involved in Debian 2. The suicide took pla

The argument on the previous version of this website effectively boils down to two points: 1. Frans Pop was heavily involved in Debian 2. The suicide took place in the same week as Debian Day I find this very unconvincing. I don't know much about this situation, so I'm not going to say Debian is 100% innocent, but the evidence the website provides is one (irrelevant) post from a mailing list.

shkkmo 4y ago
The previous version of the website had a number of different posts on several topics. I don't think the website does a good job of laying out the details in a clear manner and has a definite bias, but your summary seems deeply flawed.
- cmeacham98 4y ago
  There are two links on the homepage to other posts: both link to posts that mention Frans Pops zero times. Please link to me anywhere the website substantiates any allegation/claim about Frans Pops past the ones I listed with any level of evidence at all (NOT unsubstantiated speculation) - I genuinely cannot find it.
- hutrdvnj 4y ago
  I'm certain there's someone from the Debian community with some knowledge about the case reading this. Could you please tell us what has happened according to your standpoint?
  - randoramax 4y ago
    https://lwn.net/Articles/814508/ https://lwn.net/Articles/814508/ Lots of the history is here
  - AFOSSFan 4y ago
    https://www.debian.org/legal/debian-community-site https://www.debian.org/legal/debian-community-site Statements of other communities about this guy: https://fsfe.org/about/legal/minutes/minutes-2019-10-12.en.pdf#page=17 https://fsfe.org/about/legal/minutes/minutes-2019-10-12.en.p... https://openlabs.cc/en/statement-we-have-been-a-target-of-disinformation-efforts-our-initial-reaction/ https://openlabs.cc/en/statement-we-have-been-a-target-of-di... https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/statement-on-we-make-fedora/ https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/statement-on-we-make... He also have been banned in other communities, like FSFE, FOSDEM, Fedora, Openlabs, GSoC…

shkkmo 4y ago

The previous version of the website had a number of different posts on several topics. I don't think the website does a good job of laying out the details in a clear manner and has a definite bias, but your summary seems deeply flawed.

cmeacham98 4y ago
There are two links on the homepage to other posts: both link to posts that mention Frans Pops zero times. Please link to me anywhere the website substantiates any allegation/claim about Frans Pops past the ones I listed with any level of evidence at all (NOT unsubstantiated speculation) - I genuinely cannot find it.
hutrdvnj 4y ago
I'm certain there's someone from the Debian community with some knowledge about the case reading this. Could you please tell us what has happened according to your standpoint?
- randoramax 4y ago
  https://lwn.net/Articles/814508/ https://lwn.net/Articles/814508/ Lots of the history is here
- AFOSSFan 4y ago
  https://www.debian.org/legal/debian-community-site https://www.debian.org/legal/debian-community-site Statements of other communities about this guy: https://fsfe.org/about/legal/minutes/minutes-2019-10-12.en.pdf#page=17 https://fsfe.org/about/legal/minutes/minutes-2019-10-12.en.p... https://openlabs.cc/en/statement-we-have-been-a-target-of-disinformation-efforts-our-initial-reaction/ https://openlabs.cc/en/statement-we-have-been-a-target-of-di... https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/statement-on-we-make-fedora/ https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/statement-on-we-make... He also have been banned in other communities, like FSFE, FOSDEM, Fedora, Openlabs, GSoC…