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Makes me think it might be similar to the "I don't watch TV" or "movies" or "sports" crowds. Just any pervasive cultural activity in which some don't participat

Makes me think it might be similar to the "I don't watch TV" or "movies" or "sports" crowds. Just any pervasive cultural activity in which some don't participate but still carry on. I remember before I deleted my FB account (I've since created a new one), my buddy said to me that I'd be ok, just that I might be strongly disconnected from culture—not necessarily to tell me to not do it, but to be aware of the potential ramifications.

keyle 4y ago
Agreed partially. You have to question what "culture" are you missing on. I'm still on Facebook and let me tell you, you're not missing much in the culture department.
- agileAlligator 4y ago
  > I'm still on Facebook and let me tell you, you're not missing much in the culture department. guy above you might have deleted his fb account in the early 2000s. right now, the culture isn't at fb, it's at places like reddit and 4chan.
  - rnd0 4y ago
    > right now, the culture isn't at fb, it's at places like reddit and 4chan The fact that people in 2022 describe 4chan as having any kind of effect on our culture should send shivers down our collective spines. /pol/ is 4chan, 4chan is /pol/
    - agileAlligator 4y ago
      > The fact that people in 2022 describe 4chan as having any kind of effect on our culture should send shivers down our collective spines. 4chan has always been the undercurrent of digital culture. It's just way closer to the surface now. And contrary to popular belief, the entirety of 4chan isn't some den of degenerates and racists. People end up focusing on /b/ and /pol/, when the entire reason they were created was to quarantine that sort of discussion from infecting the rest of the boards. /fit/, /sci/, /mu/ etc are about as toxic as any subreddit.
      - rnd0 4y ago
        1)That's still pretty toxic. 2)/pol/ overruns and sets the tone for the rest of the boards on 4chan IME. That's why I personally stopped reading there.
  - jimkleiber 4y ago
    Early to mid 2010s, I think, and yes, I think it was more of a cultural current in some ways then.
- jimkleiber 4y ago
  Maybe not mass culture, per say, as that may have happened elsewhere. Maybe it was the conversation with friends, events, new lingo, reactions, updates, etc.—more focused on maybe a more local, group culture than a higher level US or global culture.
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SoftTalker 4y ago
I have no Facebook, Instagram, Snap, or any similar accounts. In casual converstation, I sometimes notice meme references or slang that I don't know, but that's about it. Not a big problem or loss IMO.
- mattgreenrocks 4y ago
  The importance of Internet memes is overblown by the always-online crowd. They are cultural phenomena, but not knowing them doesn’t confer disadvantages.
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  > In casual converstation, I sometimes notice meme references or slang that I don't know, but that's about it. Not a big problem or loss IMO. It would be a loss if your cohort planned/converse using those methods of communication, and you valued doing things with that cohort.
  - SoftTalker 4y ago
    It's not nearly that severe. In cases where I don't understand some reference, it's often clear by context. If not, I say "what does that mean?"
    - lotsofpulp 4y ago
      I should have written “exclusively planned/conversed”. As in you simply will not know about outings or get togethers, and so you simply will not see them.
  - jimkleiber 4y ago
    I think this was the bigger issue for me: missing out on what my friends were doing. It was a pain (and still is) to make accommodations for the one or two people who aren't on a platform, just as it would annoy me to remember to include the one person on Zoom when I'd be in an in-person meeting with 15 people. Switching modalities can add just enough friction to mean the one not on the platform misses out. Perhaps some wanted that, maybe even I did—conflicted in wanting freedom from it and also fearing the loss of it.

keyle 4y ago

Agreed partially. You have to question what "culture" are you missing on. I'm still on Facebook and let me tell you, you're not missing much in the culture department.

agileAlligator 4y ago
> I'm still on Facebook and let me tell you, you're not missing much in the culture department. guy above you might have deleted his fb account in the early 2000s. right now, the culture isn't at fb, it's at places like reddit and 4chan.
- rnd0 4y ago
  > right now, the culture isn't at fb, it's at places like reddit and 4chan The fact that people in 2022 describe 4chan as having any kind of effect on our culture should send shivers down our collective spines. /pol/ is 4chan, 4chan is /pol/
  - agileAlligator 4y ago
    > The fact that people in 2022 describe 4chan as having any kind of effect on our culture should send shivers down our collective spines. 4chan has always been the undercurrent of digital culture. It's just way closer to the surface now. And contrary to popular belief, the entirety of 4chan isn't some den of degenerates and racists. People end up focusing on /b/ and /pol/, when the entire reason they were created was to quarantine that sort of discussion from infecting the rest of the boards. /fit/, /sci/, /mu/ etc are about as toxic as any subreddit.
    - rnd0 4y ago
      1)That's still pretty toxic. 2)/pol/ overruns and sets the tone for the rest of the boards on 4chan IME. That's why I personally stopped reading there.
- jimkleiber 4y ago
  Early to mid 2010s, I think, and yes, I think it was more of a cultural current in some ways then.
jimkleiber 4y ago
Maybe not mass culture, per say, as that may have happened elsewhere. Maybe it was the conversation with friends, events, new lingo, reactions, updates, etc.—more focused on maybe a more local, group culture than a higher level US or global culture.

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SoftTalker 4y ago

I have no Facebook, Instagram, Snap, or any similar accounts. In casual converstation, I sometimes notice meme references or slang that I don't know, but that's about it. Not a big problem or loss IMO.

mattgreenrocks 4y ago
The importance of Internet memes is overblown by the always-online crowd. They are cultural phenomena, but not knowing them doesn’t confer disadvantages.
lotsofpulp 4y ago
> In casual converstation, I sometimes notice meme references or slang that I don't know, but that's about it. Not a big problem or loss IMO. It would be a loss if your cohort planned/converse using those methods of communication, and you valued doing things with that cohort.
- SoftTalker 4y ago
  It's not nearly that severe. In cases where I don't understand some reference, it's often clear by context. If not, I say "what does that mean?"
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    I should have written “exclusively planned/conversed”. As in you simply will not know about outings or get togethers, and so you simply will not see them.
- jimkleiber 4y ago
  I think this was the bigger issue for me: missing out on what my friends were doing. It was a pain (and still is) to make accommodations for the one or two people who aren't on a platform, just as it would annoy me to remember to include the one person on Zoom when I'd be in an in-person meeting with 15 people. Switching modalities can add just enough friction to mean the one not on the platform misses out. Perhaps some wanted that, maybe even I did—conflicted in wanting freedom from it and also fearing the loss of it.