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Except for the red meat this sounds a lot like my low-carb keto-like diet. Curious about the red meat though. Seems like a hot topic since I read a lot of conf

by raarts 4y ago

Except for the red meat this sounds a lot like my low-carb keto-like diet. Curious about the red meat though. Seems like a hot topic since I read a lot of conflicting 'evidence based' information on it. Unfortunately my trust in the possibility to determine what's true or not is decreasing. This is mostly lack of time but also because interest groups spend a lot of money trying to establish their narrative through information manipulation.

lambdaba 4y ago
To quote the article "red meat (burgers, steaks)" - one of these is not like the other. Even so, there is a word of difference between the meat of an unhealthy animal (especially the fat) and a healthy one. It does seem that anecdotally a meat-only diet resolves chronic inflammation: reddit.com/r/zerocarb
- raarts 4y ago
  Yes, Michaela Peterson's TEDx talk is very interesting.
  - unicornporn 4y ago
    Mikhaila? That is not a name that I would drop in the context of dietary advice.
    - lambdaba 4y ago
      Unless you think her story is entirely fabricated, it's a strong anecdote to support a meat-only diet can alleviate inflammation. I mean, she claims to have had hip and ankle replacement at age 17 because of arthritis. All of these conditions subsided on a meat-only diet and promptly returned when she attempted "cheats" (one she mentions is soy sauce).
fat_cantor 4y ago
Most studies lump red meat together with processed meat products, but when treated as separate food categories, the negative associations with red meat tend to disappear. That said, red meat clearly promotes inflammation, which is necessary for things like building muscle. Optimal health results from the right balance of inflammation, not its minimization. The authors focus no anti-inflammatory foods because most Americans are imbalanced toward inflammatory processed foods. It's very individual though - allergies, autoimmune responses and other inflammatory cascades are complex; I get debilitating inflammation from tomatoes.

by raarts 4y ago

lambdaba 4y ago

To quote the article "red meat (burgers, steaks)" - one of these is not like the other. Even so, there is a word of difference between the meat of an unhealthy animal (especially the fat) and a healthy one. It does seem that anecdotally a meat-only diet resolves chronic inflammation: reddit.com/r/zerocarb

raarts 4y ago
Yes, Michaela Peterson's TEDx talk is very interesting.
- unicornporn 4y ago
  Mikhaila? That is not a name that I would drop in the context of dietary advice.
  - lambdaba 4y ago
    Unless you think her story is entirely fabricated, it's a strong anecdote to support a meat-only diet can alleviate inflammation. I mean, she claims to have had hip and ankle replacement at age 17 because of arthritis. All of these conditions subsided on a meat-only diet and promptly returned when she attempted "cheats" (one she mentions is soy sauce).

fat_cantor 4y ago

Most studies lump red meat together with processed meat products, but when treated as separate food categories, the negative associations with red meat tend to disappear. That said, red meat clearly promotes inflammation, which is necessary for things like building muscle. Optimal health results from the right balance of inflammation, not its minimization. The authors focus no anti-inflammatory foods because most Americans are imbalanced toward inflammatory processed foods. It's very individual though - allergies, autoimmune responses and other inflammatory cascades are complex; I get debilitating inflammation from tomatoes.