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There no point comparing a library to a work open space. Please, tell me what is the point to go physically at work in an open space instead of doing remote wo

There no point comparing a library to a work open space. Please, tell me what is the point to go physically at work in an open space instead of doing remote work if it is to have the rules of a library? Not interacting with colleagues, not calling, not listening others speaking to know what is currently going on the company...

sublimefire 4y ago
There are people who like structure in their life. Working from home every day is not what they want. But, then, in the office one needs to work, hence some space that allows you to focus is a necessity. For the record I do not like going to the office because of the above mentioned reasons. Furthermore, my home office has better equipment. My wife on the contrary loves going to the office although she could work from home.
- brabel 4y ago
  > My wife on the contrary loves going to the office although she could work from home. Does she go to the office for the actual work? Or because she is social?
  - austinjp 4y ago
    Both? Can she work better in a social setting? Nothing wrong with that.
    - Sir_Liigmaz 4y ago
      There are plenty of people who work better in a non-social setting. Work is work. It does not need to be social. I do not want it to be social. I don't want to be friends with my co-workers. I am here for a paycheck. Sue me.
      - austinjp 4y ago
        I didn't say anything about preventing you from keeping your work and social lives separate. I sincerely hope your co-workers are aware of your preferences and give you the wide berth you desire.
brabel 4y ago
> Please, tell me what is the point to go physically at work in an open space instead of doing remote work... Exactly, there's no point going to work physically together unless you're building something physical. Interaction with colleagues works extremely well using technology: text messages, emails, conference calls, one-to-one video calls, and even the "metaverse" if you're into cutting edge stuff.
austinjp 4y ago
I think there's a straw-man there: "why build a workplace with rules that prevent work?" Personally, I'd find a workplace with a library area great. But I wouldn't want or prescribe a workplace that is entirely a library.
scarface74 4y ago
You can still go into separate rooms when you need to talk to other people.
schwartzworld 4y ago
> Please, tell me what is the point to go physically at work in an open space instead of doing remote work if it is to have the rules of a library? What's the point of physically going to work if it's not optimized for work? What's the point of commuting if my job is done better at home?
Heyso 4y ago
I agree, as a dev, going to office is mostly to coordinate and socialize. I work much better from home. I worked in an open space, where the rule was "if you have more than 1min conversation, move out". In the team I was, we often talked with each others, be it work related or not. So we ended up often working in others places together (one room for us 3-4 devs).
cratermoon 4y ago
Many of my co-workers with families have mentioned they prefer the office. They aren't fortunate enough to be able to afford a large house where everyone can have a private working space. Many houses have a single office space, perhaps a converted den, but how many have office space for two remote workers, plus the kids? How well does the home internet hold up when 4-5 people are all video conferencing?
closeparen 4y ago
For me it's about about a balance of different stimulation levels throughout the day. WFH if you live alone is near constant isolation. WFH if you live with others is near constant exposure to those others. Either of these single-speed lifestyles will wear me down. When I worked in an open office and lived alone I would sometimes be overstimulated. At least eventually I'd get to go home and recover. A workstation in a library-rules space would have avoided the discomfort altogether though. Eat lunch with my coworkers, have high-bandwidth discussions in meeting rooms, chit-chat when coming up for air by the coffee/snacks/ping-pong, but also be able to retreat to my workstation and focus on code once for the bulk of the day. Come to think of it, that's what college was like. I would study in the bowels of the library, take breaks in the peripheral food and social spaces where I'd often run into people I knew, and go back to my dorm room at night. That was the life.

sublimefire 4y ago

There are people who like structure in their life. Working from home every day is not what they want. But, then, in the office one needs to work, hence some space that allows you to focus is a necessity. For the record I do not like going to the office because of the above mentioned reasons. Furthermore, my home office has better equipment. My wife on the contrary loves going to the office although she could work from home.

brabel 4y ago
> My wife on the contrary loves going to the office although she could work from home. Does she go to the office for the actual work? Or because she is social?
- austinjp 4y ago
  Both? Can she work better in a social setting? Nothing wrong with that.
  - Sir_Liigmaz 4y ago
    There are plenty of people who work better in a non-social setting. Work is work. It does not need to be social. I do not want it to be social. I don't want to be friends with my co-workers. I am here for a paycheck. Sue me.
    - austinjp 4y ago
      I didn't say anything about preventing you from keeping your work and social lives separate. I sincerely hope your co-workers are aware of your preferences and give you the wide berth you desire.

brabel 4y ago

> Please, tell me what is the point to go physically at work in an open space instead of doing remote work... Exactly, there's no point going to work physically together unless you're building something physical. Interaction with colleagues works extremely well using technology: text messages, emails, conference calls, one-to-one video calls, and even the "metaverse" if you're into cutting edge stuff.

austinjp 4y ago

I think there's a straw-man there: "why build a workplace with rules that prevent work?" Personally, I'd find a workplace with a library area great. But I wouldn't want or prescribe a workplace that is entirely a library.

scarface74 4y ago

You can still go into separate rooms when you need to talk to other people.

schwartzworld 4y ago

> Please, tell me what is the point to go physically at work in an open space instead of doing remote work if it is to have the rules of a library? What's the point of physically going to work if it's not optimized for work? What's the point of commuting if my job is done better at home?

Heyso 4y ago

I agree, as a dev, going to office is mostly to coordinate and socialize. I work much better from home. I worked in an open space, where the rule was "if you have more than 1min conversation, move out". In the team I was, we often talked with each others, be it work related or not. So we ended up often working in others places together (one room for us 3-4 devs).

cratermoon 4y ago

Many of my co-workers with families have mentioned they prefer the office. They aren't fortunate enough to be able to afford a large house where everyone can have a private working space. Many houses have a single office space, perhaps a converted den, but how many have office space for two remote workers, plus the kids? How well does the home internet hold up when 4-5 people are all video conferencing?

closeparen 4y ago

For me it's about about a balance of different stimulation levels throughout the day. WFH if you live alone is near constant isolation. WFH if you live with others is near constant exposure to those others. Either of these single-speed lifestyles will wear me down. When I worked in an open office and lived alone I would sometimes be overstimulated. At least eventually I'd get to go home and recover. A workstation in a library-rules space would have avoided the discomfort altogether though. Eat lunch with my coworkers, have high-bandwidth discussions in meeting rooms, chit-chat when coming up for air by the coffee/snacks/ping-pong, but also be able to retreat to my workstation and focus on code once for the bulk of the day. Come to think of it, that's what college was like. I would study in the bowels of the library, take breaks in the peripheral food and social spaces where I'd often run into people I knew, and go back to my dorm room at night. That was the life.