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Unfortunately right now is the most expensive the renting market has ever been (after it was the lowest it's ever been 1.5 years ago). Things are slowly cooling

Unfortunately right now is the most expensive the renting market has ever been (after it was the lowest it's ever been 1.5 years ago). Things are slowly cooling. NYC in general is expensive (11$ chipotle burrito), but the wages are also crazy. For an entry level, 0-2 year experience programmer at a C level startup, you're easily looking at 100k+ salary. Outside of work, NYC is fun because you can pretty much think of anything you want to do tonight/tomorrow, and you'll have multiple options. Manhattan gets less noisy the further from the middle you get. I would recommend upper west side, upper east side, or hell's kitchen to live in Manhattan on a noise to cost to safety balance. The optimal way would be to move into a 1 bedroom with a significant other and split the rent 50/50

gurchik 4y ago
> For an entry level, 0-2 year experience programmer at a C level startup, you're easily looking at 100k+ salary. Everyone says this but I don't always see people mentioning that there are companies paying new grads this salary in lower cost of living cities as well. I love the idea of moving to NYC, and it certainly would result in a pay increase, but after considering the cost of living adjustment I would be worse off. This is a worthwhile trade for many people but for people who have never been to NYC it can be hard to quantity I'm sure.
- dclusin 4y ago
  My starting in the bay area was $70k at a company nobody has heard of... all the way back in 2008. 100 now seems fairly doable for mortals that have a passion & interest in coding. I've heard the rich kids from elite schools are now getting 200 starting for FAANG tech companies. Unreal.
  - b20000 4y ago
    back in 2000 70k for a starting salary was already ridiculously low
    - SnorkelTan 4y ago
      Not everybody on this forum went to Stanford/MIT/Harvard, has multiple offers to choose from, or is independently wealthy from selling their last startup. I think levels.fyi is pretty cool because they actually go and validate that the salaries people are posting are actually real. Not just make believe. My comp at my current company is above what they are quoting, still low for a dev compared to FAANG company counterparts.
      - b20000 4y ago
        looks like you need to learn how to negotiate
gotaran 4y ago
Since OP is coming from SF, 100k+ feels like an absurdly low bar. That said, it shouldn't be too hard to get something close to Bay Area compensation in NYC.
b20000 4y ago
100k salary is poor compensation taking into account the cost of living

gurchik 4y ago

> For an entry level, 0-2 year experience programmer at a C level startup, you're easily looking at 100k+ salary. Everyone says this but I don't always see people mentioning that there are companies paying new grads this salary in lower cost of living cities as well. I love the idea of moving to NYC, and it certainly would result in a pay increase, but after considering the cost of living adjustment I would be worse off. This is a worthwhile trade for many people but for people who have never been to NYC it can be hard to quantity I'm sure.

dclusin 4y ago
My starting in the bay area was $70k at a company nobody has heard of... all the way back in 2008. 100 now seems fairly doable for mortals that have a passion & interest in coding. I've heard the rich kids from elite schools are now getting 200 starting for FAANG tech companies. Unreal.
- b20000 4y ago
  back in 2000 70k for a starting salary was already ridiculously low
  - SnorkelTan 4y ago
    Not everybody on this forum went to Stanford/MIT/Harvard, has multiple offers to choose from, or is independently wealthy from selling their last startup. I think levels.fyi is pretty cool because they actually go and validate that the salaries people are posting are actually real. Not just make believe. My comp at my current company is above what they are quoting, still low for a dev compared to FAANG company counterparts.
    - b20000 4y ago
      looks like you need to learn how to negotiate

gotaran 4y ago

Since OP is coming from SF, 100k+ feels like an absurdly low bar. That said, it shouldn't be too hard to get something close to Bay Area compensation in NYC.

b20000 4y ago

100k salary is poor compensation taking into account the cost of living