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I've found no evidence that other people are sentient, I have severe doubt that I myself am sentient. That said, current AI lacking sentience does not guarante

by dusted 4y ago

I've found no evidence that other people are sentient, I have severe doubt that I myself am sentient. That said, current AI lacking sentience does not guarantee that it impossible for future AI to become sentient.

labrador 4y ago
I took a look at your comment history because I became curious if you yourself were perhaps an AI being tested on Hacker News. I noticed you said in another thread that you might have had enough of life. I doubt a non-sentient AI would say that, although Douglas Adams made famous a character he created called Marvin the depressed robot. I think depression in a person is a good test of sentience. You might be interested in Kurt Vonnegut's "Breakfast of Champions" (not the movie with Bruce Willis, which is an abomination) in which he feels everyone but himself is a robot and considers killing himself until he meets an artist who restores his faith in the creative spark and soul of humanity. Sentience is a scale anyway and apparently Elon Musk gets a low score, meaning he appears to be a bot - to Twitter at least https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/08/twitter-says-musks-spam-analysis-used-tool-that-called-his-own-account-a-bot/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/08/twitter-says-mus...
- zugi 4y ago
  > I noticed you said in another thread that you might have had enough of life. I doubt a non-sentient AI would say that A non-sentient AI trained on a corpus of text conversations between depressed people would almost certainly say that. Remember a few years ago when some company trained their natural language AI using conversations collected from the internet? And the non-sentient AI turned out to be racist, sexist, and generally rude?
  - labrador 4y ago
    Depression in my experience encompasses an entire world view. P.K. Dick says in Exegesis that readers have pointed out he keeps creating the same world over and over in his books, so he concludes that world must be him. That's who he is. Some philosophers create their philosophy out of their particular world view, which is why it doesn't resonate with me. tl;dr - A depressed AI would have to create an entire world view of thought to be convincing, not just mimic what it read in comments No one thought Tay was a reincarnated Nazi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(bot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(bot)

by dusted 4y ago

labrador 4y ago

I took a look at your comment history because I became curious if you yourself were perhaps an AI being tested on Hacker News. I noticed you said in another thread that you might have had enough of life. I doubt a non-sentient AI would say that, although Douglas Adams made famous a character he created called Marvin the depressed robot. I think depression in a person is a good test of sentience. You might be interested in Kurt Vonnegut's "Breakfast of Champions" (not the movie with Bruce Willis, which is an abomination) in which he feels everyone but himself is a robot and considers killing himself until he meets an artist who restores his faith in the creative spark and soul of humanity. Sentience is a scale anyway and apparently Elon Musk gets a low score, meaning he appears to be a bot - to Twitter at least https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/08/twitter-says-musks-spam-analysis-used-tool-that-called-his-own-account-a-bot/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/08/twitter-says-mus...

zugi 4y ago
> I noticed you said in another thread that you might have had enough of life. I doubt a non-sentient AI would say that A non-sentient AI trained on a corpus of text conversations between depressed people would almost certainly say that. Remember a few years ago when some company trained their natural language AI using conversations collected from the internet? And the non-sentient AI turned out to be racist, sexist, and generally rude?
- labrador 4y ago
  Depression in my experience encompasses an entire world view. P.K. Dick says in Exegesis that readers have pointed out he keeps creating the same world over and over in his books, so he concludes that world must be him. That's who he is. Some philosophers create their philosophy out of their particular world view, which is why it doesn't resonate with me. tl;dr - A depressed AI would have to create an entire world view of thought to be convincing, not just mimic what it read in comments No one thought Tay was a reincarnated Nazi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(bot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(bot)