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Desktop Linux is pretty comfortable and intuitive, actually. There's no challenge involved.
by caslon 4y ago
Desktop Linux is pretty comfortable and intuitive, actually. There's no challenge involved.
- sgt 4y agoA guy I know (relatively skilled) spent a whole week setting up Linux on his laptop the other day. So I don't think it's always as predictable as to say there's never a challenge involved in 2022.
- caslon 4y ago"Relatively" seems like it's doing a lot of work there.
- prmoustache 4y agoNot sure what do you want to prove with that anecdotal point. I've seen coworkers spend a month or 2 with both their new and old mac or windows laptops because they weren't seeing the end of migrating their stuff from one computer to another and setting up their dev environment. Some people are just bad at this.
- phendrenad2 4y agoWhy are your anecdotes better than that post's anecdotes?
- trelane 4y agoHe should try putting OSX on the hardware. Wouldn't even start to work. Clearly OSX is not ready for the desktop yet.
- phendrenad2 4y agoIt's too bad Linux's success isn't defined as "Can be installed on as many types of hardware as OSX" then, eh?
- unethical_ban 4y agoI just installed Fedora 36 on my Thinkpad. It went pretty smoothly. Single monitor, AMD CPU/iGPU. There are a few gripes about the discoverability of the keyboard shortcuts. Unity was good with this, holding down the Win/Meta key showed all the DE shortcuts. Also, there is not an easy way to change certain settings (like system font!) without installing an obscure package "Tweaks" that should be built into the system settings.
- sgt 4y agoCan you quickly try and connect to my 4K 60Hz monitor without the whole room breaking into laughter?
- caslon 4y agoAnecdotally, as a user of a different distribution and desktop environment, yes. Just Works.
- sgt 4y agoIf that's true then there's been substantial improvements on that front recently (which is good). As I recall, that was a tricky problem since your laptop screen likely runs another resolution, different DPI, etc so connecting to an additional screen makes things go haywire.
- caslon 4y agoThat's only with Wayland. If you don't use Wayland, the situation has been fine for a decade.
- School-Cotton 4y agoIt’s the other way around. Wayland supports different scale factors on different monitors; X doesn’t.
- ooneeks 4y agoJust install Ubuntu if you quite literally cannot grasp GNU/Linux. No, your "guy" is not "relatively skilled", that's an absurd claim when it took an entire week setting up Linux on a laptop. It has never, ever taken me more than an hour or two with mainstream distros, or more than 3 days max. for more complicated distros such as Gentoo or Arch - but the system would be minimally operational within a day, always. You would literally have to one-finger press your keyboard whilst also learning how to read for the first time simultaneously, to make the install of Linux on a LAPTOP last a week.
- donkeybeer 4y agoInstallation does not just mean finishing the setup from the livecd. We have to work at copying our apps, configs, etc and it can be a lot of "long tail" work to get things exactly as before.
- phendrenad2 4y agoOut of curiosity, how hard would Linux have to be to setup for you to no longer define "relatively skilled" as "able to setup Linux in < a week"?