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I'm truly saddened to hear that this has been your experience throughout your career so far. It is not a universal experience. I hope you find a better managed

by ttfkam 4y ago

I'm truly saddened to hear that this has been your experience throughout your career so far. It is not a universal experience. I hope you find a better managed shop soon that recognizes that it's easier to teach folks a tech stack than to teach someone to be a decent (or honest) person. Too many tech shops sabotage their culture and dozens of potentially great contributors in order to keep a few (or one) toxic contributors that the powers that be erroneously believe are irreplaceable. Anyone can be a 10x developer when you sabotage the well-being and productivity of those around you.

ant1oz 4y ago
Well said. I would also add that it is perfectly fine to have a list of red flags, and it is perfect fine to define your own bondaries. Graphql is a red flag for me too, as well is React and node.js, and even git to some extend. I love simplicity when designing web apps, their backend, their frontend and the deployment process in between. Although the tech is old , I came up that vue3+pouchdb+quasar is an amazing combination for a stable replicable dev environment, pwa, supports offline usage, and introduces possible p2p replication between browser's pouchdb instances trough webrtc. React , imo, is a good over engineered library suffering from fragmentation. Angular is less fragmented, and Vue is the most elegant, performant and versatile of the 3. Good Devs choose Vue after having worked with both react and angular. React Dev never tried Vue, nor Angular Dev try React. Vue Dev usually know all 3. Having a red flag like graphql can tell a lot about technical overview and experience in failure. Graphql solves a caching issue that Facebook has. Makes the frontend team life easy, making the backend team life hell , big big hello. Scope changes in the backend are terrible. Unless your team is engineered driven, and engineers take tech decision, and setup the sprints, going graphql in the backend is a recipe for disaster.
- ttfkam 4y ago
  This is like hating HTTP. GraphQL is a spec, not an implementation. GraphQL doesn't even mandate a network transport. Solutions like Prisma, Hasura, and Postgraphile make GraphQL dead simple to implement compared to REST when exposing relational data. AWS AppSync allows for a fully managed "serverless" experience as long as you're willing to do the schema creation grunt work and write Velocity templates. (FWIW, I'm not a fan, but it's still an option.) Apollo (and Netflix DGS) are for when you're writing everything yourself, and you just need a simple API to tie in to the GraphQL spec in exchange for having to write/optimize/maintain it all. The bright side to GraphQL is that you have choices, and when you present your "menu" of options, clients can grab what they need. Whereas on the REST side, any new requirements in calling requires direct interaction with the backend team and a new endpoint. Honestly, server-based data access doesn't get any simpler than Postgraphile, but I totally see how you could get burned by an ill-fitting solution. However that is not GraphQL's fault. You might as well blame HTTP for problems you've had with Node/Express even though you've got other options in every programming language not to mention "pre-baked" solutions like Apache, Nginx, etc. It's just a spec defining interaction, not a prescription for how that spec is implemented. It is also not a silver bullet. Right tool, right job, and all of that.

by ttfkam 4y ago

ant1oz 4y ago

Well said. I would also add that it is perfectly fine to have a list of red flags, and it is perfect fine to define your own bondaries. Graphql is a red flag for me too, as well is React and node.js, and even git to some extend. I love simplicity when designing web apps, their backend, their frontend and the deployment process in between. Although the tech is old , I came up that vue3+pouchdb+quasar is an amazing combination for a stable replicable dev environment, pwa, supports offline usage, and introduces possible p2p replication between browser's pouchdb instances trough webrtc. React , imo, is a good over engineered library suffering from fragmentation. Angular is less fragmented, and Vue is the most elegant, performant and versatile of the 3. Good Devs choose Vue after having worked with both react and angular. React Dev never tried Vue, nor Angular Dev try React. Vue Dev usually know all 3. Having a red flag like graphql can tell a lot about technical overview and experience in failure. Graphql solves a caching issue that Facebook has. Makes the frontend team life easy, making the backend team life hell , big big hello. Scope changes in the backend are terrible. Unless your team is engineered driven, and engineers take tech decision, and setup the sprints, going graphql in the backend is a recipe for disaster.

ttfkam 4y ago
This is like hating HTTP. GraphQL is a spec, not an implementation. GraphQL doesn't even mandate a network transport. Solutions like Prisma, Hasura, and Postgraphile make GraphQL dead simple to implement compared to REST when exposing relational data. AWS AppSync allows for a fully managed "serverless" experience as long as you're willing to do the schema creation grunt work and write Velocity templates. (FWIW, I'm not a fan, but it's still an option.) Apollo (and Netflix DGS) are for when you're writing everything yourself, and you just need a simple API to tie in to the GraphQL spec in exchange for having to write/optimize/maintain it all. The bright side to GraphQL is that you have choices, and when you present your "menu" of options, clients can grab what they need. Whereas on the REST side, any new requirements in calling requires direct interaction with the backend team and a new endpoint. Honestly, server-based data access doesn't get any simpler than Postgraphile, but I totally see how you could get burned by an ill-fitting solution. However that is not GraphQL's fault. You might as well blame HTTP for problems you've had with Node/Express even though you've got other options in every programming language not to mention "pre-baked" solutions like Apache, Nginx, etc. It's just a spec defining interaction, not a prescription for how that spec is implemented. It is also not a silver bullet. Right tool, right job, and all of that.