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This may be only tangentially relevant, but the author is known to be a pro-meat lobbyist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Teicholz https://en.wikipedia.org/
by julkali 4y ago
This may be only tangentially relevant, but the author is known to be a pro-meat lobbyist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Teicholz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Teicholz).
- pessimizer 4y agoCould you pull the quote out that says she's a lobbyist? I can't find it, and without it I can't figure out if you're misusing lobbyist to mean "is known to have had this opinion before."
- amusedcyclist 4y ago"She was also criticized for being an ally of the meat and dairy industry. ". She's not a scientist (did an "American Studies" degree in college,) just a dirtbag who makes her money shilling for a murderous industry
- noSyncCloud 4y agoWhat on earth is an "American Studies" degree?
- amusedcyclist 4y agoGreat question
- eduction 4y agoStrong agree. “Lobbyist” has a precise legal meaning and they are required to register with the House and Senate if they are a federal lobbyist and each state has its own registration process if they are lobbyists at that level. It does not appear this person is a lobbyist. Holding an opinion is not enough to make you a lobbyist, nor is expressing that opinion in a published work.
- amusedcyclist 4y agoWe're not in court. If someone clearly has an agenda then calling them a lobbyist is just fine
- gruez 4y ago>If someone clearly has an agenda then calling them a lobbyist is just fine Why not just call them as "having an agenda"? Why do you feel the need to stretch the truth?
- bfgoodrich 4y ago
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- eduction 4y agoSure, you can argue it’s hyperbole. But if you’re trying to make the point that someone else is sloppy with the facts, it may undermine that for you to make a literally false statement, even if it’s hyperbole. Hyperbole can be hard to detect.
- caenorst 4y agowords have meanings and should be used accordingly
- amusedcyclist 4y agoyes and in this context lobbyist means someone with a clear agenda, not a legal designation. You're the one making up meanings to suit yourself
- julkali 4y agoDefinition of lobbying per Wikipedia[0]: > the act of lawfully attempting to influence the actions, policies, or decisions of government officials, most often legislators or members of regulatory agencies. A one minute Google search revealed a quote from this politico article[1]: > She [Nina Teicholz] is also an organizer of a fledgling group that is engaged in a vigorous advocacy campaign to reshape how the U.S. government determines what makes a healthy diet. I recognize my initial quote didn't validate my claim, but it is nevertheless correct. And it may be true that _professional_ lobbyist need to be registered in the USA, but the term can also (perhaps only in other regions of the world) refer to any person lobbying. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying [1]: https://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/the-money-behind-the-fight-over-healthy-eating-214517 https://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/the-money-behind-the-...
- amusedcyclist 4y ago"Only tangentially relevant"
- Tagbert 4y agowould you announce the same warning if they were an anti-meat advocate? I see a lot of bad science and even worse popularization of studies on the vegan and anti-meat crowd.