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Trust me I tried all kinds of drugs and psychedelics are not the kind that get you hooked. Stimulants are especially addictive in my opinion. Psychs are the kin

Trust me I tried all kinds of drugs and psychedelics are not the kind that get you hooked. Stimulants are especially addictive in my opinion. Psychs are the kind of drugs you say I have enough for a while if you overdo. On top of it they build tolerance immediately.

dtx1 4y ago
Can confirm, especially mushrooms. I had one trip on them and what my main take away was: It's exhausting to trip on mushrooms and after 4-5 hours I wanted to be sober again. I'll probably do it again in a few month but for me it's a whole-weekend kind of deal and hardly a party drug
- EmilyHughes 4y ago
  It can be a "party drug" if you dose low, especially if you are chilling at a bar with friends. Just pushes you into a slightly better mood. I'll rather have a microdose with some beers than getting shitfaced drunk, feels subjectively healthier to me.
  - Thiez 4y ago
    Of course you could also just stop drinking after a few beers without taking additional drugs.
    - EmilyHughes 4y ago
      easier said than done. But you are right of course, that's where you want to go.
    - eurasiantiger 4y ago
      Of course, a few beers are much worse for you than a microdose of shrooms, so why choose the former?
- fernandotakai 4y ago
  my main issue with mushrooms is how nauseous i get -- also, i lose all my appetite for at least 12h (last time, it took 24h for me to be actually hungry again).
  - _wa6f 4y ago
    are you consuming them on an empty stomach? what are you eating the day beforehand / how is your diet in general? (like, lots of greasy, heavy food the day before / day of, or more on the lighter, healthier side of things?) this can really impact a body’s response to mushrooms on a gastrointestinal level. those being more fundamental, I would say - but on top of that, could consider a hot-water infusion with anti-emetic herbs like ginger. tends to be smoother on the GI (provided you haven’t filled your stomach contents as way as well). tends to come on more quickly as well. something else to consider is that gastrointestinal distress with psilocybin can be an indication of unprocessed emotional material and / or trauma. there’s different ways to work with that, in that context.
  - dtx1 4y ago
    Lemon tek ;)
- eurasiantiger 4y ago
  This anecdote has nothing to do with microdosing and is generally applicable to any short-term substance abuse.
carschno 4y ago
That's hardly a counterargument. GP said you were high all the time, that's different from being addicted. There is some overlap, depending on the substance, but also significant difference. Think of nicotine, caffeine (addictive, but no high) vs psilocybin (high but arguably not addictive).
- peteradio 4y ago
  Microdosing isn't supposed to make you high. OP said they were taking /20 of a high dosing. So the assertion of "being high all the time" is sort of insulting.
  - mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
    I don't see how being high is an insult. OP didn't seem insulted to me.
    - peteradio 4y ago
      I think incorrectly paraphrasing someone that misleads the conversation is insulting, perhaps that is a personal feeling of my own.
      - mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
        I could argue it's condescending to be insulted on the behalf of someone who's clearly not insulted, but how is this useful? We're all adults here, feelings are boring and irrational and they don't advance the discussion at all.
- valec 4y ago
  you literally can't be high all the time on psychedelics (at least tryptamine-derived psychedelics) because of how quickly a complete tolerance to their effect forms at the 5ht2a receptors

dtx1 4y ago

Can confirm, especially mushrooms. I had one trip on them and what my main take away was: It's exhausting to trip on mushrooms and after 4-5 hours I wanted to be sober again. I'll probably do it again in a few month but for me it's a whole-weekend kind of deal and hardly a party drug

EmilyHughes 4y ago
It can be a "party drug" if you dose low, especially if you are chilling at a bar with friends. Just pushes you into a slightly better mood. I'll rather have a microdose with some beers than getting shitfaced drunk, feels subjectively healthier to me.
- Thiez 4y ago
  Of course you could also just stop drinking after a few beers without taking additional drugs.
  - EmilyHughes 4y ago
    easier said than done. But you are right of course, that's where you want to go.
  - eurasiantiger 4y ago
    Of course, a few beers are much worse for you than a microdose of shrooms, so why choose the former?
fernandotakai 4y ago
my main issue with mushrooms is how nauseous i get -- also, i lose all my appetite for at least 12h (last time, it took 24h for me to be actually hungry again).
- _wa6f 4y ago
  are you consuming them on an empty stomach? what are you eating the day beforehand / how is your diet in general? (like, lots of greasy, heavy food the day before / day of, or more on the lighter, healthier side of things?) this can really impact a body’s response to mushrooms on a gastrointestinal level. those being more fundamental, I would say - but on top of that, could consider a hot-water infusion with anti-emetic herbs like ginger. tends to be smoother on the GI (provided you haven’t filled your stomach contents as way as well). tends to come on more quickly as well. something else to consider is that gastrointestinal distress with psilocybin can be an indication of unprocessed emotional material and / or trauma. there’s different ways to work with that, in that context.
- dtx1 4y ago
  Lemon tek ;)
eurasiantiger 4y ago
This anecdote has nothing to do with microdosing and is generally applicable to any short-term substance abuse.

carschno 4y ago

That's hardly a counterargument. GP said you were high all the time, that's different from being addicted. There is some overlap, depending on the substance, but also significant difference. Think of nicotine, caffeine (addictive, but no high) vs psilocybin (high but arguably not addictive).

peteradio 4y ago
Microdosing isn't supposed to make you high. OP said they were taking /20 of a high dosing. So the assertion of "being high all the time" is sort of insulting.
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
  I don't see how being high is an insult. OP didn't seem insulted to me.
  - peteradio 4y ago
    I think incorrectly paraphrasing someone that misleads the conversation is insulting, perhaps that is a personal feeling of my own.
    - mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
      I could argue it's condescending to be insulted on the behalf of someone who's clearly not insulted, but how is this useful? We're all adults here, feelings are boring and irrational and they don't advance the discussion at all.
valec 4y ago
you literally can't be high all the time on psychedelics (at least tryptamine-derived psychedelics) because of how quickly a complete tolerance to their effect forms at the 5ht2a receptors