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> They are healthy while alive If that's true, it would imply that they don't die of ill health (disease) but of accidents (eaten by lion) or incredibly curabl

by tomp 4y ago

> They are healthy while alive If that's true, it would imply that they don't die of ill health (disease) but of accidents (eaten by lion) or incredibly curable stuff (e.g. bacterial infection). So their lifestyle is definitely something to mimick / learn from, as we can easily prevent the healthy person dying causes of death in the first world.

oarabbus_ 4y ago
> as we can easily prevent the healthy person dying causes of death in the first world. Citation needed. Accidental deaths from motor vehicle injuries plus other factors are disturbingly common in the first world.
- BlargMcLarg 4y ago
  Doesn't need a citation since other populations do similarly. Unless you insist barbecues are causing mass extinction.
  - oarabbus_ 4y ago
    Barbecues causing mass extinction? Now that's one hell of a strawman. Citation still needed that modern society can "easily prevent" fatalities amongst healthy people, because it happens in all developed societies.
notahacker 4y ago
Or it implies that people with debilitating conditions don't survive for very long because the Bushman lifestyle is much worse for them in a wide variety of ways, so don't get factored into assessments of the surviving population's general health. More generally, the fact that a specific group of people who live outdoors and forage and hunt for food are generally in quite good physical shape is probably a better indicator that exercise is good for the physique (and lots of food and a sedentary lifestyle bad for it), than an indication we should go to the supermarket and buy more red meat in proportion to the amount they consume it. Older people can be wiry and surprisingly agile in vegetarian communities where there's [just] enough food and their traditional lifestyle entails walking around everywhere too, but that doesn't mean vegetarianism is a solution to first world dietary problems either. I'd be cautious about conflating agile with free from discomforting ailments too.
watwut 4y ago
No, that would imply they die of illness more quickly and sooner as well as of accidents. It does not have to be incredibly curable, all it needs if for better Healthcare making some difference.

by tomp 4y ago

oarabbus_ 4y ago

> as we can easily prevent the healthy person dying causes of death in the first world. Citation needed. Accidental deaths from motor vehicle injuries plus other factors are disturbingly common in the first world.

BlargMcLarg 4y ago
Doesn't need a citation since other populations do similarly. Unless you insist barbecues are causing mass extinction.
- oarabbus_ 4y ago
  Barbecues causing mass extinction? Now that's one hell of a strawman. Citation still needed that modern society can "easily prevent" fatalities amongst healthy people, because it happens in all developed societies.

notahacker 4y ago

Or it implies that people with debilitating conditions don't survive for very long because the Bushman lifestyle is much worse for them in a wide variety of ways, so don't get factored into assessments of the surviving population's general health. More generally, the fact that a specific group of people who live outdoors and forage and hunt for food are generally in quite good physical shape is probably a better indicator that exercise is good for the physique (and lots of food and a sedentary lifestyle bad for it), than an indication we should go to the supermarket and buy more red meat in proportion to the amount they consume it. Older people can be wiry and surprisingly agile in vegetarian communities where there's [just] enough food and their traditional lifestyle entails walking around everywhere too, but that doesn't mean vegetarianism is a solution to first world dietary problems either. I'd be cautious about conflating agile with free from discomforting ailments too.

watwut 4y ago

No, that would imply they die of illness more quickly and sooner as well as of accidents. It does not have to be incredibly curable, all it needs if for better Healthcare making some difference.