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Do I agree that healthcare can and does go wrong? Duh, yes. Do I think that it should therefore become a regular national news hot-topic for reactionaries to ob

Do I agree that healthcare can and does go wrong? Duh, yes. Do I think that it should therefore become a regular national news hot-topic for reactionaries to obsess about and start imposing bans/heavy regulation on that healthcare? No. If there are instances of malpractice from doctors, those instances should go to court. We needn't expect trans healthcare to be faultless before we allow it to exist.

slt2021 4y ago
If it were only healthcare matter, it would not be such a big deal. Unfortunately this slides into ideological/political subject and current polarization of society doesn't help at all. Left wingers want to show off as a big LGBTQ allies and supporters, and any even slightly opposing opinion gets canceled fiercely. School teacher can counsel my kid regarding gender confusion and not tell me about it. This is wrong and violation of my parents rights. It is kinda becomes emotional and hard subject to reason logically. I support when adult gets the treatment they needed, but at the same time when it comes to my kids (who can be easily manipulated by public opinion) I want to keep my child away from mainstream propaganda that may sway my kid towards wrong route. Until they become adults and are free to choose themselves.
- Defletter 4y ago
  Honestly, this whole problem sounds to me like parents being utterly unwilling to discuss gender with their children. Teachers wouldn't have such a supposed monopoly on this if kids felt comfortable talking to their parents. If your child came to you because they're questioning themselves, I sincerely hope you'd be there for them instead of freaking out about liberal propaganda. Kids and especially teenagers will question themselves... it's kind of the whole point of puberty. Are the people obsessing about this so old that they forgot what puberty was like? And people said the exact same stuff, verbatim, about gay people. Section 28 for example was a law passed in the UK in 1988 that reads eerily similar to Florida’s dubbed Don’t Say Gay Bill. Section 28 was literally passed in reaction to a Danish book called "Jenny Lives with Eric and Martin" where a young girl and her two dads do sordid things like having a birthday party and visiting the launderette. And British youngsters were immeasurably damaged by Section 28 and the effects remain even though it was repealed in 2004. Similarly, there were protests a few years ago of conservative parents who were """"concerned"""" that their children were being taught graphic gay sex when, in reality, children were merely being taught that some families have two mums or two dads. A lot of the puritanical moralism comes from conservatives unconsciously (or not) spreading ideologically framed, ambiguous statements. It’s like how you took the concept of teenagers seeking out that book in the adult section with that book “be[ing] on display to kids.” You made it sound worse than it was, so people interpret it as worse than it was, so it becomes a moral panic.
  - slt2021 4y ago
    I remember my time in puberty. I was dumb and was heavily influenced by peers. Drug use was normalized back then [in my environment], and I tried all the heavy drugs because it was deemed acceptable among peers, and I regret that. If my peer environment did not influence me in such a bad way, I would have never tried drugs. This is why I think it is important to protect children from bad influence, especially when it comes from mainstream sources like library, books, media. I dont want my kids to experiment with same sex sexuality, trans gender stuff, just because it is considered trendy, diverse, equal, inclusive, etc. especially if they will regret it will have poor mental health because of that
    - Defletter 4y ago
      With all due respect, it sounds like you're gunning on being a helicopter parent, which is your choice but it probably wont go over well. Your kid will try what they want to try and the most important question for you should be whether they're safe and happy. My son's coming up on 16 now and he had a short period of gender-confusion where he questioned his identity, but he came and talked to us about it and spent a couple of weeks experimenting with his gender expression. And I honestly couldn't care less where his gender-confusion came from, the fact that he knew he could share that with us, could confide in us, was one of the most beautiful moments I've experienced and something that reminds me how blessed I am to have him as a son. If he came home from school one day and said he's got a boyfriend but literally only because it's trendy, am I supposed to start thrashing him or something? No, we'd have a conversation which would mostly involve me asking him whether he's safe and happy. If yes, then it's his business not mine. Our duty as his parents is to safeguard his best interests, not dictate and micromanage his entire life and thoughts.

slt2021 4y ago

If it were only healthcare matter, it would not be such a big deal. Unfortunately this slides into ideological/political subject and current polarization of society doesn't help at all. Left wingers want to show off as a big LGBTQ allies and supporters, and any even slightly opposing opinion gets canceled fiercely. School teacher can counsel my kid regarding gender confusion and not tell me about it. This is wrong and violation of my parents rights. It is kinda becomes emotional and hard subject to reason logically. I support when adult gets the treatment they needed, but at the same time when it comes to my kids (who can be easily manipulated by public opinion) I want to keep my child away from mainstream propaganda that may sway my kid towards wrong route. Until they become adults and are free to choose themselves.

Defletter 4y ago
Honestly, this whole problem sounds to me like parents being utterly unwilling to discuss gender with their children. Teachers wouldn't have such a supposed monopoly on this if kids felt comfortable talking to their parents. If your child came to you because they're questioning themselves, I sincerely hope you'd be there for them instead of freaking out about liberal propaganda. Kids and especially teenagers will question themselves... it's kind of the whole point of puberty. Are the people obsessing about this so old that they forgot what puberty was like? And people said the exact same stuff, verbatim, about gay people. Section 28 for example was a law passed in the UK in 1988 that reads eerily similar to Florida’s dubbed Don’t Say Gay Bill. Section 28 was literally passed in reaction to a Danish book called "Jenny Lives with Eric and Martin" where a young girl and her two dads do sordid things like having a birthday party and visiting the launderette. And British youngsters were immeasurably damaged by Section 28 and the effects remain even though it was repealed in 2004. Similarly, there were protests a few years ago of conservative parents who were """"concerned"""" that their children were being taught graphic gay sex when, in reality, children were merely being taught that some families have two mums or two dads. A lot of the puritanical moralism comes from conservatives unconsciously (or not) spreading ideologically framed, ambiguous statements. It’s like how you took the concept of teenagers seeking out that book in the adult section with that book “be[ing] on display to kids.” You made it sound worse than it was, so people interpret it as worse than it was, so it becomes a moral panic.
- slt2021 4y ago
  I remember my time in puberty. I was dumb and was heavily influenced by peers. Drug use was normalized back then [in my environment], and I tried all the heavy drugs because it was deemed acceptable among peers, and I regret that. If my peer environment did not influence me in such a bad way, I would have never tried drugs. This is why I think it is important to protect children from bad influence, especially when it comes from mainstream sources like library, books, media. I dont want my kids to experiment with same sex sexuality, trans gender stuff, just because it is considered trendy, diverse, equal, inclusive, etc. especially if they will regret it will have poor mental health because of that
  - Defletter 4y ago
    With all due respect, it sounds like you're gunning on being a helicopter parent, which is your choice but it probably wont go over well. Your kid will try what they want to try and the most important question for you should be whether they're safe and happy. My son's coming up on 16 now and he had a short period of gender-confusion where he questioned his identity, but he came and talked to us about it and spent a couple of weeks experimenting with his gender expression. And I honestly couldn't care less where his gender-confusion came from, the fact that he knew he could share that with us, could confide in us, was one of the most beautiful moments I've experienced and something that reminds me how blessed I am to have him as a son. If he came home from school one day and said he's got a boyfriend but literally only because it's trendy, am I supposed to start thrashing him or something? No, we'd have a conversation which would mostly involve me asking him whether he's safe and happy. If yes, then it's his business not mine. Our duty as his parents is to safeguard his best interests, not dictate and micromanage his entire life and thoughts.