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who cares though? species have come and gone, and will continue too if you died and then a millisecond after a chicxulub scale asteroid obliterated all mammali

who cares though? species have come and gone, and will continue too if you died and then a millisecond after a chicxulub scale asteroid obliterated all mammalian life (again), who would be there to care about fucking fertility or propagation of the species?? the point is we don't have to be limited to biological mandates -- that's what transhumanism is about. moralizing it is just wasted and you clearly don't understand what it's about. instead you decide to whinge about trans people being mentally ill. please

yarg 4y ago
Where did I say that they were mentally ill? (Misremembering other people's arguments is a poor strategy in a technical forum.) And regardless of what transhumanism as a whole is about, it will always be about continuation of sapience and its evolution through time. Biological or otherwise.
- LesZedCB 4y ago
  > The transgender community needs to stop pushing the notion that it's healthy and desirable; it's not - it's a devastating hormonal/fertility disorder. what exactly is your word for unhealthy and undesirable? you are clearly referring to dysphoria. i don't know if you realized, but the DSM has changed in recent years.
  - yarg 4y ago
    No mention of mental illness there, but you already knew that.
    - LesZedCB 4y ago
      sorry, you just disagree with them being happy even if it makes them infertile. classic intellectually dishonest HN concern troll
      - stale2002 4y ago
        If you stopped acting in bad faith, looking for some gotcha, for one single second, you'd realize that by "unhealthly" they were referring to the effects of hormone treatments, which clearly have significant effects and side effects on the physical body.
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        fzeroracer 4y ago
        People literally do hormone treatments to solve things like pattern baldness. If you're concerned about unhealthy hormone treatments you should probably start with the stuff that's far more common. Finasteride is used for both hair loss as well as hormone therapy for transgender people.
      - the_omegist 4y ago
        The classical consumerist hedonist mentality : if they are happy then who can say anything about that ? Well it seems you're the one trolling here. If you deny the right to people to have opinions and judgments based on their beliefs about anything they wish, you're doing worse than you complain about.
        LesZedCB 4y ago
        i am not denying any right, i have neither authority nor power. we all have equal right to comment and disagree. though you are right, i am kinda a hedonist. do you mourn for me, or lament the condition I would bring upon civilization, right before chicxulub blows us up? haha. don't worry, i have no power offline either.
- yarg 4y ago
  That was meant to say 'misrepresenting' (the phone said 'misre...ing' since the complete word didn't fit on the screen.

yarg 4y ago

Where did I say that they were mentally ill? (Misremembering other people's arguments is a poor strategy in a technical forum.) And regardless of what transhumanism as a whole is about, it will always be about continuation of sapience and its evolution through time. Biological or otherwise.

LesZedCB 4y ago
> The transgender community needs to stop pushing the notion that it's healthy and desirable; it's not - it's a devastating hormonal/fertility disorder. what exactly is your word for unhealthy and undesirable? you are clearly referring to dysphoria. i don't know if you realized, but the DSM has changed in recent years.
- yarg 4y ago
  No mention of mental illness there, but you already knew that.
  - LesZedCB 4y ago
    sorry, you just disagree with them being happy even if it makes them infertile. classic intellectually dishonest HN concern troll
    - stale2002 4y ago
      If you stopped acting in bad faith, looking for some gotcha, for one single second, you'd realize that by "unhealthly" they were referring to the effects of hormone treatments, which clearly have significant effects and side effects on the physical body.
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      - fzeroracer 4y ago
        People literally do hormone treatments to solve things like pattern baldness. If you're concerned about unhealthy hormone treatments you should probably start with the stuff that's far more common. Finasteride is used for both hair loss as well as hormone therapy for transgender people.
    - the_omegist 4y ago
      The classical consumerist hedonist mentality : if they are happy then who can say anything about that ? Well it seems you're the one trolling here. If you deny the right to people to have opinions and judgments based on their beliefs about anything they wish, you're doing worse than you complain about.
      - LesZedCB 4y ago
        i am not denying any right, i have neither authority nor power. we all have equal right to comment and disagree. though you are right, i am kinda a hedonist. do you mourn for me, or lament the condition I would bring upon civilization, right before chicxulub blows us up? haha. don't worry, i have no power offline either.
yarg 4y ago
That was meant to say 'misrepresenting' (the phone said 'misre...ing' since the complete word didn't fit on the screen.