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There's a bit of backstory to how this phrase evolved into a slur. It started out with rumors about trans people online who think transitioning will solve all o

There's a bit of backstory to how this phrase evolved into a slur. It started out with rumors about trans people online who think transitioning will solve all of the problems for some people. They are often called pinkpillers. This became a pretty common stereotype on 4chan, epitomized as the "discord groomer" who teaches people how to buy dark web hormones. Then the news about gender stuff being taught in schools started. This, alongside increasing awareness of detransitioners (for example the book Irreparable Damage) gave a new narrative of teachers "grooming" students into being trans. At that point the whole thing began to snowball and with resentment toward corporatised LGBT stuff everywhere "groomer", started being thrown around as a slur for any and all LGBT, to imply that they're pedos.

pseudalopex 4y ago
Maybe those things happened. But the kind of people saying groomer now accused LGB of preying on children before they knew about T.
- Defletter 4y ago
  That's because those people only begrudingly tolerated LGB people. Now they have an excuse to voice their intolerances.
raarts 4y ago
James Lindsay claims to be the first who used the word groomer in this way. See his blog on new discourses.com. There is more context to this. Grooming is an established tactic of pedophiles and studied by scientists. It involves breaking the bond with parents ("it's our little secret"), desensitizing children - which have a natural aversion (yuk) - towards sex acts, and in general confusing them. Many parents (not only conservatives) see the lgbtq+ materials presented to kids (even below 3rd grade) as accomplishing exactly these goals. Schools sometimes have policies of affirming gender changes and not informing parents (keeping secrets), lesson materials are seen as desensitizing towards sex acts. Children are sometimes told at a very early age they might be in the wrong body. And in school board meetings parents reading from books from the school library are silenced because the contents are 'pornographic'. Part of the outrage is of course fueled and carried too far by conservative Christians but that is not the story here.

pseudalopex 4y ago

Maybe those things happened. But the kind of people saying groomer now accused LGB of preying on children before they knew about T.

Defletter 4y ago
That's because those people only begrudingly tolerated LGB people. Now they have an excuse to voice their intolerances.

raarts 4y ago

James Lindsay claims to be the first who used the word groomer in this way. See his blog on new discourses.com. There is more context to this. Grooming is an established tactic of pedophiles and studied by scientists. It involves breaking the bond with parents ("it's our little secret"), desensitizing children - which have a natural aversion (yuk) - towards sex acts, and in general confusing them. Many parents (not only conservatives) see the lgbtq+ materials presented to kids (even below 3rd grade) as accomplishing exactly these goals. Schools sometimes have policies of affirming gender changes and not informing parents (keeping secrets), lesson materials are seen as desensitizing towards sex acts. Children are sometimes told at a very early age they might be in the wrong body. And in school board meetings parents reading from books from the school library are silenced because the contents are 'pornographic'. Part of the outrage is of course fueled and carried too far by conservative Christians but that is not the story here.