Zoom with video on isn't face to face. Neither is a conference call. Face to face only makes sense when everybody is working in the same location, not when th

Zoom with video on isn't face to face. Neither is a conference call. Face to face only makes sense when everybody is working in the same location, not when they're scattered across the width of a continent, and to me face to face isn't worth the hassle of commuting when I don't get paid for the time, expense, and risk to life and limb that driving to work entails.