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"As a result, we are able to use Siri’s recognition engine from any device. Yes, that means anyone could now write an Android app that uses the real Siri!" Are

by Volpe 15y ago

"As a result, we are able to use Siri’s recognition engine from any device. Yes, that means anyone could now write an Android app that uses the real Siri!" Are they just lying then? There demo said they got siri to work with no iphone involved (in the end). Also... DDoS would still be effective, no? (the server still has to 'filter') > Hacks are admired here You sure about that? A lot of China-bashing happens here based around it's 'Hacking' of U.S targets, I've never seen admiration of such things.

skore 15y ago
You are confusing cracking and hacking.
- Volpe 15y ago
  I see so, "cracking" is admired here. "hacking" condemned. Got it! :)
modeless 15y ago
They're not lying. Anyone could write an Android app that uses Siri, but it would require the ID from an iPhone to work, so distributing it would be problematic.
- bigiain 15y ago
  Yeah, unless someone happened to have a huge cache of real device IDs... http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/dear_iphone_users_your_apps_are_spying_on_you.php http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/dear_iphone_users_your_... (I hope the app store magical-vetting-code is smart enough to ensure the new hit app "Somewhat Annoyed Birds" isn't capable of fishing around in the phone for the Siri ID and sending it back to the developers website along with the high score you just got...)
- jrockway 15y ago
  Why would that be problematic? You write a server that provides clients with an iPhone ID that hasn't been banned from using Siri yet, and then you make the app contact that server to get the ID. I'm sure Apple would send a nastygram, but they send nastygrams if you scratch your phone and don't get it repaired quickly enough. There is no law against telling other people your phone's serial number. There is no law against sending an HTTP request to an HTTP server for non-malicious reasons. So really, I don't see much of a legal problem.
  - modeless 15y ago
    Where would you get the valid IDs? You can't share the same ID between very many users, or Apple will ban it. You can't buy an iPhone for every user of your Siri app. iPhone users won't willingly give you their IDs. Are you going to somehow obtain and use the IDs of unsuspecting iPhone users without their permission? That is likely illegal and definitely will get you sued and booted from Android Market.
    - jrockway 15y ago
      My guess is that Apple will ban an ID after a day or two. My other guess is that you can just keygen the ID.
z92 15y ago
From the article: "The iPhone 4S sends identifiers everywhere. So if you want to use Siri on another device, you still need the identfier of at least one iPhone 4S. Of course we’re not publishing ours"

by Volpe 15y ago

skore 15y ago

You are confusing cracking and hacking.

Volpe 15y ago
I see so, "cracking" is admired here. "hacking" condemned. Got it! :)

modeless 15y ago

They're not lying. Anyone could write an Android app that uses Siri, but it would require the ID from an iPhone to work, so distributing it would be problematic.

bigiain 15y ago
Yeah, unless someone happened to have a huge cache of real device IDs... http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/dear_iphone_users_your_apps_are_spying_on_you.php http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/dear_iphone_users_your_... (I hope the app store magical-vetting-code is smart enough to ensure the new hit app "Somewhat Annoyed Birds" isn't capable of fishing around in the phone for the Siri ID and sending it back to the developers website along with the high score you just got...)
jrockway 15y ago
Why would that be problematic? You write a server that provides clients with an iPhone ID that hasn't been banned from using Siri yet, and then you make the app contact that server to get the ID. I'm sure Apple would send a nastygram, but they send nastygrams if you scratch your phone and don't get it repaired quickly enough. There is no law against telling other people your phone's serial number. There is no law against sending an HTTP request to an HTTP server for non-malicious reasons. So really, I don't see much of a legal problem.
- modeless 15y ago
  Where would you get the valid IDs? You can't share the same ID between very many users, or Apple will ban it. You can't buy an iPhone for every user of your Siri app. iPhone users won't willingly give you their IDs. Are you going to somehow obtain and use the IDs of unsuspecting iPhone users without their permission? That is likely illegal and definitely will get you sued and booted from Android Market.
  - jrockway 15y ago
    My guess is that Apple will ban an ID after a day or two. My other guess is that you can just keygen the ID.

z92 15y ago

From the article: "The iPhone 4S sends identifiers everywhere. So if you want to use Siri on another device, you still need the identfier of at least one iPhone 4S. Of course we’re not publishing ours"