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There are plenty of very practical ways to legislate speech, we already do it all over the place. We don't live in this legal abyss, most institutions make dec

There are plenty of very practical ways to legislate speech, we already do it all over the place. We don't live in this legal abyss, most institutions make decisions for their business, but also for what they view to be higher, civic purposes. Cable and Broadcast TV standards aren't just about profit maximization, they're kind of there to set a 'decency precedent'. I mean, for the same reason you don't see 'porn everywhere' - you don't see the kinds of hyperbolic stuff Jones is saying all over the place. Almost all organization have thresholds of various kinds, certainly Search, Social Media, Netflix, Cable/Broadcast in general, news outlets, Cable carriers, Academia yada yada. The question will be perennially 'what to enforce and why' but we definitely already have standards. Aside from fighting about the rules at various institutions, we then have 'legal' rules (a bit different), and of course we probably want to make sure there are at least some forums where anything can be said.

ajsnigrutin 4y ago
But there are not... > The question will be perennially 'what to enforce and why' but we definitely already have standards. Yes, but each of us has a different standards. In usa for example, they have "the nipplegate" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXXVIII_halftime_show_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXXVIII_halftime_sh... where one nipple (a thing kids hang on for some time, then are disallowed to see for a few years, then want to hang on again,... and well, girls see in the mirror every day) causes such controversy... ...and in the country of my birth (yugoslavia), even in the "dark socialist times", you had nipples on public tv in a milk commercial - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYhaHhpLKag&t=21s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYhaHhpLKag&t=21s It's same with speech, you might agree with your own personal standards, but many others don't, some believe in absulute free speech, and some want to censor what they believe to be "hate speech". This is again one of those things where people say that they agree to a standard of what is and what should not be free speech, but each has their own standard incompatible with the other ones.

ajsnigrutin 4y ago

But there are not... > The question will be perennially 'what to enforce and why' but we definitely already have standards. Yes, but each of us has a different standards. In usa for example, they have "the nipplegate" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXXVIII_halftime_show_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXXVIII_halftime_sh... where one nipple (a thing kids hang on for some time, then are disallowed to see for a few years, then want to hang on again,... and well, girls see in the mirror every day) causes such controversy... ...and in the country of my birth (yugoslavia), even in the "dark socialist times", you had nipples on public tv in a milk commercial - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYhaHhpLKag&t=21s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYhaHhpLKag&t=21s It's same with speech, you might agree with your own personal standards, but many others don't, some believe in absulute free speech, and some want to censor what they believe to be "hate speech". This is again one of those things where people say that they agree to a standard of what is and what should not be free speech, but each has their own standard incompatible with the other ones.