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I don't think you can compare this to Russia and Ukraine at all. Russia (at least the western part) and Ukraine is Slavic. Ukraine and Russia were one country f
by rjzzleep 4y ago
I don't think you can compare this to Russia and Ukraine at all. Russia (at least the western part) and Ukraine is Slavic. Ukraine and Russia were one country for 450 years and before the beginning of the 20th century that current nationalist movement did not exist. Ukraine literally means borderlands in old Slavic language.
If anything, it was the Slavs in that region that expanded eastward and resettled conquered territories e.g. Tatars(Crimea) to the eastern parts.
Taiwan was inhabited by Austronesians, some of which were butchered by the dutch when they first drove them out, then by Portuguese, later by the Japanese (for a while a lot of Taiwanese considered themselves Japanese, while others on that Island fought of the invaders in the east) and sometime in between all that Hakka and other Han Chinese settled the island.
After loosing the civil war as you know Chiang Kai-shek settled there while running a brutal dictatorship where the first thing he did was take all the local currency and reissue his own. I think the biggest giveaway on how problematic Taiwans history with China is, is that some of the biggest treasures that Mao tried to destroy are in the national history museum in Taipei.
I agree with you that Taiwan never accepted changing it's own constitution(i.e. passports are still issued as RoC, not as Taiwan), but you absolutely cannot compare Ukraine to Taiwan. Neither in geography nor in history.
- eevilspock 4y agoMy point is about the hypocrisy all around, not about making perfect comparisons between all these situations.
- spookie 4y agoI didn't want to sound "tribal", just making it clear that Taiwan hasn't been as bad as mainland China. It's true that there's a lot of corruption inside the country, and I guess that even the USA has been hesitant thanks to that. Originally, I didn't even talk about the USA's morally dubious nature, which I think it can certainly be pointed out. But try and formulate those points in a different way next time, don't imply something others haven't said. Nevertheless, I agree. There's a lot of hypocrisy on this, even if I think that it's for different reasons (the USA just wants to make sure they have a way to choke out China's navy through another "friend").