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Congratulations on throwing yourself into the dumpster of internet search. I appreciate your efforts to push people toward using Brave Search, Qwant, and Presea

Congratulations on throwing yourself into the dumpster of internet search. I appreciate your efforts to push people toward using Brave Search, Qwant, and Presearch instead of DDG's censored results. Keep "curating" yourself out of the ecosystem.

yegg 4y ago
We don’t censor results. Unless legally prohibited, you should find all media outlets in our results. Related, we recently published another help page explaining how our news rankings work: https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/news-rankings/ https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/ne....
- groffee 4y ago
  Sure you do. Remember tank man? [0] You don't index shit yourselves so when Bing censors something you do too. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27394925 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27394925
  - yegg 4y ago
    We do index many things (see related comment at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32360874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32360874). We do not remove any results ourselves for political purposes and in fact we have been banned in China for many years for that very reason. What you're referring to was a temporary bug in our image search results from Bing that they promptly fixed. If they hadn't fixed it promptly then we would have taken further action.
    - barbacoa 4y ago
      Just now I went to RT.com and searched various article titles verbatim on DDG, they came up near the bottom half of results. I repeated this test with WSJ and found the link as the #1 result. From this it wouldn't be unreasonable to believe that either you or the sources you pull from are engaging in arbitrary website throttling/downranking. I hear you when you say you don't remove content, but do you, or to what extent do you throttle/downrank websites?
      - SebaSeba 4y ago
        Might it have any effect on the ranking that rt.com is nowadays blocked on a national level in most parts of the western world?
        yegg 4y ago
        Yes, that can have an effect. To the parent question, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32361888 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32361888
- calculatte 4y ago
  "We don't censor, we just push sources I don't like to the 100th page of search results." Still not buying it. Does your hiring process still discriminate illegally? https://www.publish0x.com/late-to-the-pol/duckduckgo-allegedly-discriminates-during-hiring-process-alt-xookdlj https://www.publish0x.com/late-to-the-pol/duckduckgo-alleged... You're a bad actor with a product that does nothing but scrape Bing and pretends to stand for privacy. Just give it up.

yegg 4y ago

We don’t censor results. Unless legally prohibited, you should find all media outlets in our results. Related, we recently published another help page explaining how our news rankings work: https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/news-rankings/ https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/ne....

groffee 4y ago
Sure you do. Remember tank man? [0] You don't index shit yourselves so when Bing censors something you do too. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27394925 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27394925
- yegg 4y ago
  We do index many things (see related comment at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32360874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32360874). We do not remove any results ourselves for political purposes and in fact we have been banned in China for many years for that very reason. What you're referring to was a temporary bug in our image search results from Bing that they promptly fixed. If they hadn't fixed it promptly then we would have taken further action.
  - barbacoa 4y ago
    Just now I went to RT.com and searched various article titles verbatim on DDG, they came up near the bottom half of results. I repeated this test with WSJ and found the link as the #1 result. From this it wouldn't be unreasonable to believe that either you or the sources you pull from are engaging in arbitrary website throttling/downranking. I hear you when you say you don't remove content, but do you, or to what extent do you throttle/downrank websites?
    - SebaSeba 4y ago
      Might it have any effect on the ranking that rt.com is nowadays blocked on a national level in most parts of the western world?
      - yegg 4y ago
        Yes, that can have an effect. To the parent question, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32361888 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32361888
calculatte 4y ago
"We don't censor, we just push sources I don't like to the 100th page of search results." Still not buying it. Does your hiring process still discriminate illegally? https://www.publish0x.com/late-to-the-pol/duckduckgo-allegedly-discriminates-during-hiring-process-alt-xookdlj https://www.publish0x.com/late-to-the-pol/duckduckgo-alleged... You're a bad actor with a product that does nothing but scrape Bing and pretends to stand for privacy. Just give it up.