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>The fallout of the MoFi revelation has thrown the audiophile community into something of an existential crisis. Don't worry, the crisis will not last long. A

by apohn 4y ago

>The fallout of the MoFi revelation has thrown the audiophile community into something of an existential crisis. Don't worry, the crisis will not last long. Audiophiles will find a way to get over it and buy some better cables that would have revealed they were using a Digital source all along.

user_7832 4y ago
> Don't worry, the crisis will not last long. Audiophiles will find a way to get over it and buy some better cables that would have revealed they were using a Digital source all along. You don’t need to attack any person or community - especially given that rich people buying expensive stuff is hardly hurting others directly. Please make good faith arguments.
- bambax 4y ago
  > especially given that rich people buying expensive stuff is hardly hurting others directly Superstition is always bad.
  - user_7832 4y ago
    If superstition is always bad, I take it you're also annoyed/angry at Wayne Gretzky or Serena Williams? Or any athlete engaging in superstition? (https://thevarsity.ca/2022/03/20/athletes-superstition/ https://thevarsity.ca/2022/03/20/athletes-superstition/)
    - bambax 4y ago
      I have never heard of Wayne Gretzky; Google tells me he's a hockey player. I don't think I have ever seen a match of hockey in my entire life. I'm not annoyed by what I don't know. But the "superstitions" that the linked article mentions, are rituals, lucky charms. They're much less dangerous than going around pretending that something exists, that provably isn't there. Audiophiles are moon-landing deniers. Some might think it's funny or harmless. I think it's terrifying.
      - user_7832 4y ago
        > Audiophiles are moon-landing deniers. Sorry, but I do not follow how you came to this conclusion, could you explain it? > They're much less dangerous than going around pretending that something exists, that provably isn't there. By your definition is every person in the world who believes in god therefore dangerous?
- Sporktacular 4y ago
  If they just bought it and shut up about it maybe.
floren 4y ago
Cables are all well and good, but the quest for perfect audio will continue until somebody invents a gadget which makes you 15 years old again, hanging out in your friend's basement, having just tried pot for the first time and hearing Led Zeppelin III on a cheap Sears record player. I don't know exactly what this gadget will look like, but it's the only thing that will get audiophiles the sound they've been chasing.
- jamiek88 4y ago
  Yes, there’s deffo something to that. Hence the cassette revival for those of us of a certain vintage.
  - toast0 4y ago
    I think I'm in the right vintage for that, but did cassettes ever sound good? I could get nostalgic for the sound (especially fast forward/reverse, which is lovely), and I probably never had good equipment, but tapes were always kind of warbly for me. I had access to older records too, which could sound good when there wasn't too much hissing and popping and they weren't skipping. Some records were maybe off balance? and wouldn't play at consistent speed either. Again, I didn't have great equipment.
    - apohn 4y ago
      >I think I'm in the right vintage for that, but did cassettes ever sound good? Compared to CDs? Definitely not! Not to mention how many people listened to homemade mixtapes and copies, which made the audio quality even worse. Did they sound good enough that you could dance, relax, have a good time, be consoled when you were unhappy, or whatever people did with music? Absolutely. Even when CDs did eventually come out, I far preferred a WalkMan to a Discman. I could put a Walkman in one pocket and a cassette in the other. That wasn't easy with CDs.
      - jamiek88 4y ago
        Yep plus early ‘discman’ didn’t have anti skip and battery life was terrible. Cassettes we’re easy to remix, record, share. The physical mixtape was a cultural touchstone of romance and friendship for a while there. So yeah, I guess ‘good enough’.

by apohn 4y ago

user_7832 4y ago

> Don't worry, the crisis will not last long. Audiophiles will find a way to get over it and buy some better cables that would have revealed they were using a Digital source all along. You don’t need to attack any person or community - especially given that rich people buying expensive stuff is hardly hurting others directly. Please make good faith arguments.

bambax 4y ago
> especially given that rich people buying expensive stuff is hardly hurting others directly Superstition is always bad.
- user_7832 4y ago
  If superstition is always bad, I take it you're also annoyed/angry at Wayne Gretzky or Serena Williams? Or any athlete engaging in superstition? (https://thevarsity.ca/2022/03/20/athletes-superstition/ https://thevarsity.ca/2022/03/20/athletes-superstition/)
  - bambax 4y ago
    I have never heard of Wayne Gretzky; Google tells me he's a hockey player. I don't think I have ever seen a match of hockey in my entire life. I'm not annoyed by what I don't know. But the "superstitions" that the linked article mentions, are rituals, lucky charms. They're much less dangerous than going around pretending that something exists, that provably isn't there. Audiophiles are moon-landing deniers. Some might think it's funny or harmless. I think it's terrifying.
    - user_7832 4y ago
      > Audiophiles are moon-landing deniers. Sorry, but I do not follow how you came to this conclusion, could you explain it? > They're much less dangerous than going around pretending that something exists, that provably isn't there. By your definition is every person in the world who believes in god therefore dangerous?
Sporktacular 4y ago
If they just bought it and shut up about it maybe.

floren 4y ago

Cables are all well and good, but the quest for perfect audio will continue until somebody invents a gadget which makes you 15 years old again, hanging out in your friend's basement, having just tried pot for the first time and hearing Led Zeppelin III on a cheap Sears record player. I don't know exactly what this gadget will look like, but it's the only thing that will get audiophiles the sound they've been chasing.

jamiek88 4y ago
Yes, there’s deffo something to that. Hence the cassette revival for those of us of a certain vintage.
- toast0 4y ago
  I think I'm in the right vintage for that, but did cassettes ever sound good? I could get nostalgic for the sound (especially fast forward/reverse, which is lovely), and I probably never had good equipment, but tapes were always kind of warbly for me. I had access to older records too, which could sound good when there wasn't too much hissing and popping and they weren't skipping. Some records were maybe off balance? and wouldn't play at consistent speed either. Again, I didn't have great equipment.
  - apohn 4y ago
    >I think I'm in the right vintage for that, but did cassettes ever sound good? Compared to CDs? Definitely not! Not to mention how many people listened to homemade mixtapes and copies, which made the audio quality even worse. Did they sound good enough that you could dance, relax, have a good time, be consoled when you were unhappy, or whatever people did with music? Absolutely. Even when CDs did eventually come out, I far preferred a WalkMan to a Discman. I could put a Walkman in one pocket and a cassette in the other. That wasn't easy with CDs.
    - jamiek88 4y ago
      Yep plus early ‘discman’ didn’t have anti skip and battery life was terrible. Cassettes we’re easy to remix, record, share. The physical mixtape was a cultural touchstone of romance and friendship for a while there. So yeah, I guess ‘good enough’.