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Puberty blockers don't change gender identity in early onset puberty. Even removing sex organs doesn't change gender identity. David Reimer was castrated very y

Puberty blockers don't change gender identity in early onset puberty. Even removing sex organs doesn't change gender identity. David Reimer was castrated very young and raised as a girl. It didn't work. Similar treatments have been forced on intersex children. Some people say so many gender dysphoria patients taking puberty blockers choosing to transition proves puberty blockers make them want to transition. Maybe it proves diagnostic criteria, professional advice, social factors, or other things keep people who wouldn't transition off puberty blockers.

dragonwriter 4y ago
> Some people say so many gender dysphoria patients taking puberty blockers choosing to transition proves puberty blockers make them want to transition These people do not address that: - People with gender dysphoria are disproportionately likely (though somewhat less than those who do take puberty blockers) to choose to transition without having taken puberty blockers, too, and - People with gender dysphoria who take puberty blockers have a reduced incidence of suicidality. The best explanation is that: (1) Gender dysphoria, not puberty blockers, predicts future likelihood of choosing transition, and (2) Within the group with dysphoria, future likelihood of choosing transition is also correlated with risk of suicidality without puberty blockers, such that withholding puberty blockers reduces the future transition rate by disproportionately killing those most likely to transition later.
- throwaway290 4y ago
  Fair enough. I still don't rule out the rise in xenoestrogens and such as playing a role, but I'm aware of reduced suicidality and that's obviously a good thing. > People with gender dysphoria are disproportionately likely [to transition] Which age does that typically happen?

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Puberty blockers don't change gender identity in early onset puberty. Even removing sex organs doesn't change gender identity. David Reimer was castrated very y

by pseudalopex 4y ago

dragonwriter 4y ago
> Some people say so many gender dysphoria patients taking puberty blockers choosing to transition proves puberty blockers make them want to transition These people do not address that: - People with gender dysphoria are disproportionately likely (though somewhat less than those who do take puberty blockers) to choose to transition without having taken puberty blockers, too, and - People with gender dysphoria who take puberty blockers have a reduced incidence of suicidality. The best explanation is that: (1) Gender dysphoria, not puberty blockers, predicts future likelihood of choosing transition, and (2) Within the group with dysphoria, future likelihood of choosing transition is also correlated with risk of suicidality without puberty blockers, such that withholding puberty blockers reduces the future transition rate by disproportionately killing those most likely to transition later.
- throwaway290 4y ago
  Fair enough. I still don't rule out the rise in xenoestrogens and such as playing a role, but I'm aware of reduced suicidality and that's obviously a good thing. > People with gender dysphoria are disproportionately likely [to transition] Which age does that typically happen?