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> To many Taiwanese, support for "Taiwan independence" would be tantamount to denying their history and self-experienced identity. A very real sort of oppressio

> To many Taiwanese, support for "Taiwan independence" would be tantamount to denying their history and self-experienced identity. A very real sort of oppression. Source? I have Taiwanese sources stating the exact opposite. The Taiwanese youth does not want to be seen as Chinese.

wongarsu 4y ago
After WWII, Germany lost a large section of their Eastern Territory to Poland, and everyone from there was resettled within the new German borders. Those people were furious, and as a result German policy was to demand that territory back, and a refusal to recognize the new borders. A couple decades later a lot of the people who grew up there had died of old age, and the new generation had no relation to the old territory. As a result public sentiment changed, and Germany publicly recognized the new borders when it was politically advantageous. Taiwan is probably going through the same process, just a bit slower since it's not just about territory but about national identity. Each generation weakens the ties to the old "Chinese" identity and strengthens a "Taiwanese" identity, until a tipping point is reached.
- zozbot234 4y ago
  Nowadays both Germany and Poland are part of the EU, and people have freedom of movement in both territories. So if anyone wants to move to their "historical" homeland, they can easily do so. Interestingly, this is also partly the case wrt. the PRC and Taiwan, as a result of the One China policy.
yorwba 4y ago
Asking for sources while not providing the ones you claim to have is kind of ironic. If you check Taiwanese opinion polls https://esc.nccu.edu.tw/PageDoc/Detail?fid=7801&id=6963 https://esc.nccu.edu.tw/PageDoc/Detail?fid=7801&id=6963 you'll see that there's a plurality of opinions. People who want independence outnumber people who want unification, but the majority prefers to keep the status quo, for now or forever.
- allendoerfer 4y ago
  I am not naming people I know personally, especially not in this context. There is no irony, I am telling you, that there is a Taiwanese source behind my statement. I would have been happy with the same statement from OP.

wongarsu 4y ago

After WWII, Germany lost a large section of their Eastern Territory to Poland, and everyone from there was resettled within the new German borders. Those people were furious, and as a result German policy was to demand that territory back, and a refusal to recognize the new borders. A couple decades later a lot of the people who grew up there had died of old age, and the new generation had no relation to the old territory. As a result public sentiment changed, and Germany publicly recognized the new borders when it was politically advantageous. Taiwan is probably going through the same process, just a bit slower since it's not just about territory but about national identity. Each generation weakens the ties to the old "Chinese" identity and strengthens a "Taiwanese" identity, until a tipping point is reached.

zozbot234 4y ago
Nowadays both Germany and Poland are part of the EU, and people have freedom of movement in both territories. So if anyone wants to move to their "historical" homeland, they can easily do so. Interestingly, this is also partly the case wrt. the PRC and Taiwan, as a result of the One China policy.

yorwba 4y ago

Asking for sources while not providing the ones you claim to have is kind of ironic. If you check Taiwanese opinion polls https://esc.nccu.edu.tw/PageDoc/Detail?fid=7801&id=6963 https://esc.nccu.edu.tw/PageDoc/Detail?fid=7801&id=6963 you'll see that there's a plurality of opinions. People who want independence outnumber people who want unification, but the majority prefers to keep the status quo, for now or forever.

allendoerfer 4y ago
I am not naming people I know personally, especially not in this context. There is no irony, I am telling you, that there is a Taiwanese source behind my statement. I would have been happy with the same statement from OP.