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I don't think the problem you encountered is due to immutability, the problem is due to the implementation, which is now improved due to better documentation an

I don't think the problem you encountered is due to immutability, the problem is due to the implementation, which is now improved due to better documentation and more package support. The possibility of mutation alone will break a lot of assumptions and make program analysis a lot harder. I personally prefer no mutation at all or only when wrapped inside a cell (UnsafeCell), similar to rust. For the latter kind, we can treat the states as immutable if we don't have a cell, which can help analysis.

hoosieree 4y ago
That's fair. I blamed immutability when I should have blamed the implementation. Thanks for helping me realize my mistake. :) Availability of packages is what makes or breaks a distribution, though. If I can't (easily) install the software I need to do my job, I choose a distribution that can. My home Ubuntu server isn't bringing me joy, so maybe now's a good time to give Nix another shot. Fingers crossed for Nvidia driver support...
- dpatterbee 4y ago
  In my experience the Nvidia driver support has been pretty painless (once you figure out the correct settings in configuration.nix of course), and the availability of packages is by far the best of any linux distro I've used.
  - jcelerier 4y ago
    I've been working on a project that uses Nix, and from an archlinux host with Nvidia hardware it has been very far from painless, with nixGL breaking every time Arch updates glibc
- pca006132 4y ago
  I think if you don't use some relatively niche packages, nix is fine. However there are some quirks such as setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH for CUDA that may need some tinkering. If you want to give nix another try, I strongly recommend you to use nix flakes and home manager. Nix flakes allows you to pin dependency versions, and home manager provides a lot of configurations for commonly used packages.
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hoosieree 4y ago

That's fair. I blamed immutability when I should have blamed the implementation. Thanks for helping me realize my mistake. :) Availability of packages is what makes or breaks a distribution, though. If I can't (easily) install the software I need to do my job, I choose a distribution that can. My home Ubuntu server isn't bringing me joy, so maybe now's a good time to give Nix another shot. Fingers crossed for Nvidia driver support...

dpatterbee 4y ago
In my experience the Nvidia driver support has been pretty painless (once you figure out the correct settings in configuration.nix of course), and the availability of packages is by far the best of any linux distro I've used.
- jcelerier 4y ago
  I've been working on a project that uses Nix, and from an archlinux host with Nvidia hardware it has been very far from painless, with nixGL breaking every time Arch updates glibc
pca006132 4y ago
I think if you don't use some relatively niche packages, nix is fine. However there are some quirks such as setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH for CUDA that may need some tinkering. If you want to give nix another try, I strongly recommend you to use nix flakes and home manager. Nix flakes allows you to pin dependency versions, and home manager provides a lot of configurations for commonly used packages.
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