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Why not just require an appropriate level of travel insurance OR a deposit? If the problem is recovery + funeral expenses

mytailorisrich 4y ago
I think the Mayor also wants to limit the number of climbers. A 10-20euros private insurance would not be an effective deterrent, but having to put down 15k certainly is.
- ozim 4y ago
  I don't think there is 10-20euros travel insurance one can buy that does not exclude mountain climbing or any activity that requires specialistic gear.
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  - mytailorisrich 4y ago
    Google and quite online quote tells me that I can get a insurance that covers mountaineering to 6,000m (that's very serious mountaineering...), climbing, paragliding, skydiving, etc. for one week throughout Europe and Morocco with 5 million pounds medical cover for £100. Still a massive difference and deterrence level compared to putting down 15k euros.
  - michaelt 4y ago
    You can get top-up insurance for loads of sports [1] if you want cover for "Mountain Unicycling - Competition" or "Jousting" or "Praying Mantis Training" Of course, there are some things they won't cover - if you're skydiving you have to either be qualified, or undergoing instruction. And it might be a bit expensive - if you're doing scrambling at 7000m in nepal, it'll cost you £150 or so. [1] https://www.sportscoverdirect.com/activity-topup-insurance/ https://www.sportscoverdirect.com/activity-topup-insurance/
  - watwut 4y ago
    Year long insurance for climbing is not all that expensive in EU. I know quite a few people who have it.
    - ozim 4y ago
      That is nice to know I am mostly into "off the shelf travel insurance" even 150euro if going into the mountains for me still would be worth it.
      - watwut 4y ago
        Definitely look for it, you can buy it also for much shorter periods if you know you are going to mountains. In some countries, you can buy it for a day via SMS.
- LorenPechtel 4y ago
  Insurance at that price level doesn't cover something like Mont Blanc.
ozim 4y ago
There is no insurance company that will insure you on doing that. Unless I don't know something - for which I would be glad to hear back that I am wrong. Any travel insurance I have seen always excluded all kinds of sports which is also mountain climbing. They exclude everything that requires specialistic gear. I also work in insurance industry as a software dev - nothing that I have seen would let insure someone who would go under-prepared. One could fill in form that he goes fully prepared but once lied insurance company won't pay anything. Basically they will sell you insurance if you are fully prepared and basically you don't have any chance of claiming insurance.
- adammarples 4y ago
  Eh? Winter sports cover is a normal travel insurance add on.
  - martin_a 4y ago
    > Winter sports Cliimbing to the top of the highest mountain in the EU will probably not count as "winter sports", but as extreme sports. Winter sports will cover skiing and alike, though.
    - WildGreenLeave 4y ago
      We are arguing about the definition of extreme sports, but for my travel insurance for skiing and kitesurfing I need the "extreme sports" addon. The point is, "extreme sports" depend on the insurer.
    - adammarples 4y ago
      Yes which require specialist gear.
    - watwut 4y ago
      There is insurance for exactly that and quite affordable actually.
- meheleventyone 4y ago

mytailorisrich 4y ago

I think the Mayor also wants to limit the number of climbers. A 10-20euros private insurance would not be an effective deterrent, but having to put down 15k certainly is.

ozim 4y ago
I don't think there is 10-20euros travel insurance one can buy that does not exclude mountain climbing or any activity that requires specialistic gear.
- deleted 4y ago
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- mytailorisrich 4y ago
  Google and quite online quote tells me that I can get a insurance that covers mountaineering to 6,000m (that's very serious mountaineering...), climbing, paragliding, skydiving, etc. for one week throughout Europe and Morocco with 5 million pounds medical cover for £100. Still a massive difference and deterrence level compared to putting down 15k euros.
- michaelt 4y ago
  You can get top-up insurance for loads of sports [1] if you want cover for "Mountain Unicycling - Competition" or "Jousting" or "Praying Mantis Training" Of course, there are some things they won't cover - if you're skydiving you have to either be qualified, or undergoing instruction. And it might be a bit expensive - if you're doing scrambling at 7000m in nepal, it'll cost you £150 or so. [1] https://www.sportscoverdirect.com/activity-topup-insurance/ https://www.sportscoverdirect.com/activity-topup-insurance/
- watwut 4y ago
  Year long insurance for climbing is not all that expensive in EU. I know quite a few people who have it.
  - ozim 4y ago
    That is nice to know I am mostly into "off the shelf travel insurance" even 150euro if going into the mountains for me still would be worth it.
    - watwut 4y ago
      Definitely look for it, you can buy it also for much shorter periods if you know you are going to mountains. In some countries, you can buy it for a day via SMS.
LorenPechtel 4y ago
Insurance at that price level doesn't cover something like Mont Blanc.

ozim 4y ago

There is no insurance company that will insure you on doing that. Unless I don't know something - for which I would be glad to hear back that I am wrong. Any travel insurance I have seen always excluded all kinds of sports which is also mountain climbing. They exclude everything that requires specialistic gear. I also work in insurance industry as a software dev - nothing that I have seen would let insure someone who would go under-prepared. One could fill in form that he goes fully prepared but once lied insurance company won't pay anything. Basically they will sell you insurance if you are fully prepared and basically you don't have any chance of claiming insurance.

adammarples 4y ago
Eh? Winter sports cover is a normal travel insurance add on.
- martin_a 4y ago
  > Winter sports Cliimbing to the top of the highest mountain in the EU will probably not count as "winter sports", but as extreme sports. Winter sports will cover skiing and alike, though.
  - WildGreenLeave 4y ago
    We are arguing about the definition of extreme sports, but for my travel insurance for skiing and kitesurfing I need the "extreme sports" addon. The point is, "extreme sports" depend on the insurer.
  - adammarples 4y ago
    Yes which require specialist gear.
  - watwut 4y ago
    There is insurance for exactly that and quite affordable actually.
meheleventyone 4y ago