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Yeah, missing this 3D Touch. The input experience (or AI supported typing) is getting worse and worse for me on the iPhone. Especially, if your are using diffe

Yeah, missing this 3D Touch. The input experience (or AI supported typing) is getting worse and worse for me on the iPhone. Especially, if your are using different languages in parallel. For me it is my mother tongue German and my most second language English and sometimes using Spanish. In an (for me) unpredictable way, there are words replaced to "correct" typos. But, independent of the used keyboard language, which is completely ignored for this auto-correct, it replaces it with German word, when I write English and sometimes with English words when I type German. Then this forced touch was helpful to select the letters/word to re-write it correctly to make the sentence meaningful. But now, this whole selection process is completely broken (for me). Since the removal of force touch, when I try to go to a specific spot, it selects parts of the sentence in a completely (for me) unpredictable way. Then I have no chance to un-select anymore, so I have to replace the whole. The experience is getting worse and worse. I think peak iOS was in the past.

mft_ 4y ago
I’ve been experiencing something similar recently, and for a while even thought it was just me getting worse at typing on such a small keyboard. However, the points you make are absolutely right, and in addition it has recently developed the annoying trait of sometimes choosing to replace previous words that I have specifically typed and selected.
konschubert 4y ago
I don't disagree with you. But I think it's great that the keyboard language does not define the autocorrect language. The German keyboard has smaller-sized keys and it would drive me insane I think if I had to switch to the German keyboard in order to type German text.
- vladvasiliu 4y ago
  You can change the keyboard layout per language. I type mostly in French (on an otherwise English language phone) and use French in QWERTY layout. For the special characters (é, à, etc), I long-press and choose whatever I need. Since I hate typing on the phone, I quite like using the suggestions, especially for words with multiple special characters.
- actionablefiber 4y ago
  I disagree. In my experience you just develop different muscle memories for different languages after enough time. The Zhuyin keyboard for Chinese has four rows and even smaller keys but basically works fine once you have some practice with it.
asdff 4y ago
I disable autocorrect now. The occasional typos are more clear compared to replacing a word entirely for a wrong one.
frankfrankfrank 4y ago
Totally agree with the keyboard and predictive typing being a huge problem child that needs serious attention at this point. Some frustrations I have been dealing with: - The two word replacement pattern is immensely frustrating and leads to typos, e.g., where “AI” seems to think it knows better what I was trying to write and changes the previous correct word based on what it thinks I am trying to currently type/swipe. A good example just happened below; I tried typing “mid word” below, once I started swipe typing “word” iOS thought it would be a great idea to change “mid” to make it “miss words”. Thanks for the unhelp Apple. - The random capitalizations for no apparent reason, sometimes even mid word, and no, not from accidentally hitting shift, even during swipe typing. - The infuriating overbearing and downright evil efforts at speech and thought control. For example you can’t swipe type certain things Apple has clearly designated as wrongthink; assuming of course that the only possible reason someone would want to use the sequence of words Apple has designated as wrongthink is for purposes that violate their perspective of narrow utopian authoritarian society. - That for some reason sooner rather specific acronyms seem to be prioritized over the most common words in the English language through inaccuracy. One example; try swipe typing “is” with some inaccuracy and you get “OSS” instead, ab rather obscure acronym to replace “is”, or OSS it? - The concatenation of “a” (I think there are others I can’t recall) rather than automatically adding a space when there is a hyper (I think that’s what it’s going on), so e.g., “it’s a” turns into “it’sa” … “he’s a” “what’sa” - I too have gotten the sense some of it may even have to do with or is exacerbated by using multiple keyboard languages. I love when the autocorrect “AI” substitutes words from a different language altogether, that’sa (that was organic, but left for sarcastic effect) really great feature! (Yes, that’s more sarcasm)
- vladvasiliu 4y ago
  > The random capitalizations for no apparent reason, sometimes even mid word, and no, not from accidentally hitting shift, even during swipe typing. I've never had capitalization for no apparent reason (maybe I didn't pay enough attention), but I have a similar pet peeve, where the AI learns "a bit too much". I write a lot of French, and a fairly common phrase I type is "c'est chiant" (that sucks). At first, it would try to autocorrect this to something else, probably because it's "not nice" to write that. But after insisting on writing that for a while, it must have figured "ok, let him write that". Except that it learned the whole phrase, capitalized, because it's usually the first thing I type, so it automatically capitalizes the first letter (I always rely on automatic capitalization when writing informally). But now when I want to write that in the middle of a sentence, it will auto-capitalize the C.
nabeards 4y ago
For your autocorrect issue with other languages: in addition to having the keyboards activated, do you also have the languages activated in Settings / General / Language & Region? I had to have both the keyboard enabled and the language in here to stop the default-language only autocorrects.

mft_ 4y ago

I’ve been experiencing something similar recently, and for a while even thought it was just me getting worse at typing on such a small keyboard. However, the points you make are absolutely right, and in addition it has recently developed the annoying trait of sometimes choosing to replace previous words that I have specifically typed and selected.

konschubert 4y ago

I don't disagree with you. But I think it's great that the keyboard language does not define the autocorrect language. The German keyboard has smaller-sized keys and it would drive me insane I think if I had to switch to the German keyboard in order to type German text.

vladvasiliu 4y ago
You can change the keyboard layout per language. I type mostly in French (on an otherwise English language phone) and use French in QWERTY layout. For the special characters (é, à, etc), I long-press and choose whatever I need. Since I hate typing on the phone, I quite like using the suggestions, especially for words with multiple special characters.
actionablefiber 4y ago
I disagree. In my experience you just develop different muscle memories for different languages after enough time. The Zhuyin keyboard for Chinese has four rows and even smaller keys but basically works fine once you have some practice with it.

asdff 4y ago

I disable autocorrect now. The occasional typos are more clear compared to replacing a word entirely for a wrong one.

frankfrankfrank 4y ago

Totally agree with the keyboard and predictive typing being a huge problem child that needs serious attention at this point. Some frustrations I have been dealing with: - The two word replacement pattern is immensely frustrating and leads to typos, e.g., where “AI” seems to think it knows better what I was trying to write and changes the previous correct word based on what it thinks I am trying to currently type/swipe. A good example just happened below; I tried typing “mid word” below, once I started swipe typing “word” iOS thought it would be a great idea to change “mid” to make it “miss words”. Thanks for the unhelp Apple. - The random capitalizations for no apparent reason, sometimes even mid word, and no, not from accidentally hitting shift, even during swipe typing. - The infuriating overbearing and downright evil efforts at speech and thought control. For example you can’t swipe type certain things Apple has clearly designated as wrongthink; assuming of course that the only possible reason someone would want to use the sequence of words Apple has designated as wrongthink is for purposes that violate their perspective of narrow utopian authoritarian society. - That for some reason sooner rather specific acronyms seem to be prioritized over the most common words in the English language through inaccuracy. One example; try swipe typing “is” with some inaccuracy and you get “OSS” instead, ab rather obscure acronym to replace “is”, or OSS it? - The concatenation of “a” (I think there are others I can’t recall) rather than automatically adding a space when there is a hyper (I think that’s what it’s going on), so e.g., “it’s a” turns into “it’sa” … “he’s a” “what’sa” - I too have gotten the sense some of it may even have to do with or is exacerbated by using multiple keyboard languages. I love when the autocorrect “AI” substitutes words from a different language altogether, that’sa (that was organic, but left for sarcastic effect) really great feature! (Yes, that’s more sarcasm)

vladvasiliu 4y ago
> The random capitalizations for no apparent reason, sometimes even mid word, and no, not from accidentally hitting shift, even during swipe typing. I've never had capitalization for no apparent reason (maybe I didn't pay enough attention), but I have a similar pet peeve, where the AI learns "a bit too much". I write a lot of French, and a fairly common phrase I type is "c'est chiant" (that sucks). At first, it would try to autocorrect this to something else, probably because it's "not nice" to write that. But after insisting on writing that for a while, it must have figured "ok, let him write that". Except that it learned the whole phrase, capitalized, because it's usually the first thing I type, so it automatically capitalizes the first letter (I always rely on automatic capitalization when writing informally). But now when I want to write that in the middle of a sentence, it will auto-capitalize the C.

nabeards 4y ago

For your autocorrect issue with other languages: in addition to having the keyboards activated, do you also have the languages activated in Settings / General / Language & Region? I had to have both the keyboard enabled and the language in here to stop the default-language only autocorrects.