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>White Americans are descended from Europeans, and the post was talking about being proud to be white White Americans have never experienced oppression in Amer

by OOD 4y ago

>White Americans are descended from Europeans, and the post was talking about being proud to be white White Americans have never experienced oppression in America. Full stop. Europeans typically are not racialized and do not identify as white, instead as Italian, German, etc. This discussion is obviously about whites in the US. >Though I don't see why oppression is a requirement for pride - does achievement not suffice? It's not an achievement when you spent centuries conquering, colonizing, and extracting everything you can from BIPOCs. When you start out so far ahead in a race it's not an achievement when you win. >And "white fragility" is simply a way to dismiss objections without addressing if they are factual. I addressed them, you're not factual. White Americans recoil to the facts that they created and live in a society that upholds their supremacy.

AinderS 4y ago
> Europeans typically are not racialized and do not identify as white, instead as Italian, German, etc. This is obviously false, as shown by the different reactions in Europe to immigration from countries within Europe, to those outside of Europe.
LunaSea 4y ago
> White Americans have never experienced oppression in America. Full stop. Europeans typically are not racialized and do not identify as white, instead as Italian, German, etc. This discussion is obviously about whites in the US. Wow, this is an incredibly stupid comment. If you simply looked at the history of Italian and Irish immigrants you would know so.
- jjeaff 4y ago
  Italian and Irish were not considered "white" at the time. They were oppressed by the white majority. Lucky for them, after assimilation into American culture, they became impossible to distinguish from the white majority and so their persecution was relatively short lived.
  - LunaSea 4y ago
    > was relatively short lived Well besides all that canal digging and train track building you know. And even after all this oppression they managed to succeed.

by OOD 4y ago

AinderS 4y ago

> Europeans typically are not racialized and do not identify as white, instead as Italian, German, etc. This is obviously false, as shown by the different reactions in Europe to immigration from countries within Europe, to those outside of Europe.

LunaSea 4y ago

> White Americans have never experienced oppression in America. Full stop. Europeans typically are not racialized and do not identify as white, instead as Italian, German, etc. This discussion is obviously about whites in the US. Wow, this is an incredibly stupid comment. If you simply looked at the history of Italian and Irish immigrants you would know so.

jjeaff 4y ago
Italian and Irish were not considered "white" at the time. They were oppressed by the white majority. Lucky for them, after assimilation into American culture, they became impossible to distinguish from the white majority and so their persecution was relatively short lived.
- LunaSea 4y ago
  > was relatively short lived Well besides all that canal digging and train track building you know. And even after all this oppression they managed to succeed.